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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.0&return_msg=43051.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.11">11–12</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=43051.1">Slide scanning / digitizing</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="43051_1_12_10"> <a name="a43051_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">15 Aug 14:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1">43051.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Anyone here have knowledge/experience of scanning old slides to digital files?<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 15 Aug 14:05 by BOUGHTONP</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.1&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER)<span class="message_time">15 Aug 18:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Aug 21:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.2">43051.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_1" target="_self">43051.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <s>Have you tried asking PB?</s><br /> <br /> I'm surprised you don't already have photography based solutions to this, were you leaning towards a scanner? I have no experience, before you get your hopes up, just curious.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.2&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">15 Aug 21:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Aug 19:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.3">43051.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_2" target="_self">43051.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm leaning towards any solution that can cope with thousands of slides, is Debian compatible, and doesn't involve sending them away. <p>I can conceive a bunch of potential methods for shining a light through a slide and taking a sufficiently high-resolution in-focus image, but there may be unforseen pitfalls, so a known "this <em>will</em> work" solution would be great. </p><p>The information is very likely out there somewhere, but trying to search today's web is far too frustrating.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.3&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">16 Aug 08:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 15:58"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.4">43051.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_3" target="_self">43051.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> > but trying to search today's web is far too frustrating.<br /> <br /> It *really* is. I've all but given up on the web as a searchable world of information and insights. It's just a handful of web-apps that I reluctantly use.<br /> <br /> As for the slides, there are carousel-fed slide scanners, they're quite expensive. But I'm sure you knew that. And on the software side you'd be dealing with SANE but I assume you knew that too.<br /> <br /> You *can* scan slides just by arranging them on a flatbed scanner but the results are obviously pretty low-quality. Easy to chop up with Imagemagick though.<br /> <br /> Either way, definitely going to be an un-fun experience and I wish you luck <span class="emoticon e_hug" title="(hug)"><span class="e__">(hug)</span></span><br /> <br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.4&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">16 Aug 10:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 15:58"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.5">43051.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_1" target="_self">43051.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I have an Epson 1660 flatbed with film/slide scanning. It does a fairly good job for a low-end device. The hardest part is getting dust off the platen and both sides of the originals, and in some cases film curl.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.5&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">16 Aug 10:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 15:58"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.6">43051.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_3" target="_self">43051.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think you mean an auto-loading, jam-proof, set it and forget it device. No such animal.<br /> <br /> My advice would be to obtain a light table, a real one, cull it down to 100-150 must scan images, and take it from there.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 16 Aug 10:18 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.6&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 17:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 22:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.7">43051.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_6" target="_self">43051.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think any culling has already happened, at least for the bulk, but that could still be a useful idea for grouping. <p>If I can get something that's a constant white, maybe the least painful option would be tripod with a macro lens, and clamping a ruler so there's only one dimension of alignment to deal with. </p><p>I guess the question would then become how much does one need to pay to ensure the light is sufficiently diffused - are the cheap illustrator-targetted options good enough or would they have a subtle pattern when photographed. </p><p>According to <a href="https://clifforth.co.uk/howto/">Andrew Clifforth, it's the latter, but a good diffuser can overcome that</a>, however they want £65+ and 17 working days to send out some plastic. <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.7&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 22:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Aug 16:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.8">43051.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_7" target="_self">43051.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> There's a bunch of adaptors for DSLR and cellphone scanning out there, I haven't tried any myself but they look like they could save a ton of alignment and lighting hassles.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.8&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">18 Aug 16:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Aug 18:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.9">43051.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_8" target="_self">43051.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Hrm, I think I thought I'd looked for that and not found anything, but I guess I hadn't actually looked. <p>Nikon do one, though obviously it has an uncommon thread size... I think it'll fit my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX, and of course it's £150/160 new, or £115 from the nearest used/refurbished shop, where I could physically confirm it fits, and test whether my extension tubes allow close enough focusing. That's still a fair amount of money for a few bits of plastic. </p><p>For a similar price there's a <a href="https://www.kenro.co.uk/collections/film-slide-photo-scanners/products/kenro-4-in-1-scanner-film-slide-photo-scanner">Kenro 302 scanner</a> which can be used standalone and outputs to SD card - though is only 8MP JPGs instead of the cropped 16MP NEF raw files my camera would give, but would probably still be good enough. </p><p>But then, I do have a diffuser already, so if that can sufficiently blur the pixels of a bright white screen (I need to go get it and test), then the rest might be tedious but ultimately solvable.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.9&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a43051_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_43051_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">18 Aug 17:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Aug 20:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 12</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.10">43051.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=43051.1#a43051_4" target="_self">43051.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> p.s. Thanks for your response too - I'm not deliberately ignoring you, just couldn't think of a reply.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=43051.10&return_msg=43051.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="43051.10"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="43051.11" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>