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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42991.0&return_msg=42991.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.1">1–6</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42991.1">The Holdovers (2023)</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42991_1_6_10"> <a name="a42991_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_42991_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">26 Nov 2023 19:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.1">42991.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I wouldn't normally give the 'dysfunctional family christmas' genre a second glance, but this one has Paul Giamatti in it. It starts out to form, which is to say frothy and inconsequential, but the assorted, stock characters turn out to have surprising depth. A 70s nostalgia angle is played a tad too hard, lacking the subtlety and historic grounding of The Ice Storm. Apart from that, and the genre itself (which ultimately does kind of drag it down), a pretty flawless production.<br /> <br /> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AhKLpJmHhIg" style="height:360px;margin:0px auto;width:480px;"></iframe><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 26 Nov 2023 20:11 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42991.1&return_msg=42991.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42991.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42991_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_42991_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">27 Nov 2023 10:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Nov 2023 19:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.2">42991.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.1#a42991_1" target="_self">42991.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> A trip to the cinema? I haven't been for ages. I think the last thing I went to see was Nope.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42991.2&return_msg=42991.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42991.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42991_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_42991_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">27 Nov 2023 19:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Nov 2023 22:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.3">42991.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.1#a42991_2" target="_self">42991.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> We go fairly often. A small number of movies should be seen large. Can't say this was one, but go we did. Probably should have gone to Napoleon for the largeness instead. But we didn't.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 27 Nov 2023 19:39 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42991.3&return_msg=42991.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42991.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42991_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42991_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">29 Nov 2023 22:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Nov 2023 18:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.4">42991.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.1#a42991_3" target="_self">42991.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm wondering about Napoleon and the bigness. I saw Waterloo on the big screen when I was 16. It was a school trip cinema visit. 15000+ extras in battle scenes blew my teenage socks off. Not that many in Napoleon, and I read that there's a lot of AI/CGI duplication. I'd like to see it big, even if its to go "Hmmm".</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42991.4&return_msg=42991.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42991.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42991_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42991_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">30 Nov 2023 15:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Nov 2023 15:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.5">42991.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.1#a42991_4" target="_self">42991.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The early talk of a much longer cut being on streaming has left me a bit unsure too, is it going to be bloated or is the cinema release suffering from having too much removed?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42991.5&return_msg=42991.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42991.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42991_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42991_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">26 Dec 2023 23:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Dec 2023 20:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.6">42991.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42991.1#a42991_5" target="_self">42991.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Watched it just now to wind down from 17 Boxing Day guests. Liked it. Maybe a fraction long but the time was generally well used. I get what Mr Smith means about a 70s nostalgia angle, but even that wasn't too badly done. Basically a decent intelligent script, pretty flawlessly acted by all. And entertaining.<br /> <br /> Edit: just spotted that I echoed the flawless idea. Probably because that's what it was.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 26 Dec 2023 23:09 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42991.6&return_msg=42991.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42991.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>