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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42982.0&return_msg=42982.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.1">1–6</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42982.1">New Outlook</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42982_1_6_10"> <a name="a42982_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_42982_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Oct 2023 12:07</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.1">42982.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Users of email via a browser, Thunderbird, Kmail, Mutt, Apple Mail or whatever probably won't be interested in this. To be fair, neither (probably) will users of MS Outlook, but there you go. <br /> <br /> MS is going to roll out a new version of their email client, Outlook. I've used Outlook for years, currently on the MS 365 version. It's OK. Does some things well, others badly, some so so, much like many other clients I've tried. On Outlook with MS 365, the new Outlook is being offered for a try. You can toggle between old and new. Generally, your email sits on the server of whoever provides the service, whether it's an ISP, a company like MS, or even email from whoever hosts your domain. For instance, MS provides my hotmail account, so my email sits on an MS Server or servers somewhere. I use a client so I have local copies as well. <br /> <br /> But, with the new Outlook one thing is completely different. MS wants to sync any non-MS accounts you access via Outlook to the MS Cloud. As their online help makes clear - <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Syncing your account to the Microsoft Cloud means that a copy of your email, calendar, and contacts will be synchronized between your email provider and Microsoft data centers</div> The help implies that this "can" now be done by the user, and that it's an enhancement: a big opportunity etc. In fact, it "must" be done to use the new Outlook. Obviously, the old Outlook's days are numbered, so soon enough all non-MS email accessed through Outlook will be copied onto their servers.<br /> <br /> Not sure I'm happy with this. OK, so I rely on Google to store copies of my email safely if I use GMAIL. Same thing with a handful of other accounts that I've yet to get rid of. But do I want Microsoft to hold yet another copy somewhere on the Cloud?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42982.1&return_msg=42982.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42982.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42982_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_42982_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2023 00:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Oct 2023 10:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.2">42982.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.1#a42982_1" target="_self">42982.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I don't use Outlook to access other mail accounts, but I do use Gmail to access Outlook, precisely because it offers a stripped down way to access work emails. Outlook is a slow, kludgy resource hog (like most of Office) with a ton of bells and whistles that I don't use, cluttering up the interface and bloating the code. I think it's really oriented to the corporate cloud user. Which I suppose I am. Ho hum.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42982.2&return_msg=42982.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42982.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42982_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_42982_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 5 Oct 2023 11:07</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Oct 2023 17:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.3">42982.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.1#a42982_2" target="_self">42982.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You're quite right, of course. Worse still, functions and features that would be useful are often squirrelled away in ridiculously obscure and unlikely places. For example, I do some admin for a writers' group and regularly need to resend emails i.e. exact same email to the same or a similar list of people. So where is this obvious feature? Naturally it's on the taskbar when you open a previously sent email. But it isn't in with all the "sendy" options such as reply, reply all, forward etc. It's under "actions" in the "Move" group of commands. And that was one of the easier ones to find.<br /> <br /> I quite like gmail, but I suppose I'm lazy and have grown used to Outlook. I also find that gmail's way of ordering conversations can get in the way a bit, although I confess I haven't checked on whether it can be changed.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42982.3&return_msg=42982.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42982.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42982_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42982_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 6 Oct 2023 18:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Oct 2023 12:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.4">42982.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.1#a42982_2" target="_self">42982.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <i>> but I do use Gmail to access Outlook, precisely because it offers a stripped down way to access work emails.</i> <p>O_o Has Outlook become so bad that <em>Gmail</em> is considered stripped down? </p><p>Actually, considering what Windows 8/10 are like, that shouldn't really be a surprise. </p><p>But what about Outlook Web Access? Last time I used that, I think it was more lightweight than even Gmail's "Basic HTML" interface (the one which is apparently going away in a few months).</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42982.4&return_msg=42982.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42982.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42982_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42982_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time"> 9 Oct 2023 10:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Oct 2023 12:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.5">42982.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.1#a42982_4" target="_self">42982.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> OWA is pretty much the full Outlook these days, it's sort of impressive sort of stupid.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42982.5&return_msg=42982.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42982.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42982_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42982_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">10 Oct 2023 12:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Oct 2023 18:15"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 6</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.6">42982.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42982.1#a42982_4" target="_self">42982.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thinking specifically of the android Gmail app. I avoid using the browser version.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 10 Oct 2023 13:03 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42982.6&return_msg=42982.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42982.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>