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Hate it.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.74&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.74"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_75"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_75"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">22 Jun 2020 15:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jun 2020 09:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">75 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.75">42608.75</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.74#a42608_74" target="_self">42608.74</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How many of the 20 PL grounds are you involved with?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.75&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.75"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_76"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_76"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">22 Jun 2020 19:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Jun 2020 20:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">76 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.76">42608.76</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.73">42608.73</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Mrs WmA bought me a Switch for my 64th so I've been playing insane amounts of Mario Odyssey. Does that count? Also there's snooker on the telly again.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.76&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.76"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_77"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_77"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">23 Jun 2020 09:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jun 2020 10:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">77 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.77">42608.77</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.74#a42608_75" target="_self">42608.75</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Depends on what level you mean, but we work with all of them to at least some degree. Directly as in our company spends time inside them on the reg, I'd say about 7, maybe another 3 that we're quite close with. Plus Wembley.<br /> <br /> <span class="emoticon e_lol" title="LOL"><span class="e__">LOL</span></span> the cricket and rugby will start soon too, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.77&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.77"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_78"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_78"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">23 Jun 2020 10:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jun 2020 21:33"></span></span> <span class="message_count">78 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.78">42608.78</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.74#a42608_76" target="_self">42608.76</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Animal Crossing seems to be the in thing now.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.78&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.78"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_79"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_79"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">23 Jun 2020 10:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jun 2020 12:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">79 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.79">42608.79</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.74#a42608_77" target="_self">42608.77</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I guess everyone wants everything NOW. More games in a shorter space of time?<br /> 3 months of not working then back into the deep end.<br /> <br /> Working from home is getting to me again, but both do and don't want to return to the office.<br /> Do because I need the interaction.<br /> Don't because there's still a pandemic.<br /> <br /> Our CEO was bold enough to say a while ago that he doesn't see a full office return across the group until there's a vaccine. Still expecting there to be some push in the coming month or so though.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.79&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.79"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_80"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_80"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">23 Jun 2020 12:56</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jun 2020 13:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">80 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.80">42608.80</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.74#a42608_79" target="_self">42608.79</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Venue teams want everything earlier than normal. Commercial teams want to brief it in later than normal. The rock and the hard place have me in the middle. Some of them are just arseholes with no consideration of what they're asking I think emails at 5pm saying "here is a brief, can we see it today please" and things like that. Or asking for LED systems to be on and running at 6am the next morning (again at about 5pm for the request) and then chasing it for an answer within minutes. Cunts!<br /> <br /> Can you maybe visit the office once or twice? I have found that a bit of interaction goes a long way - and also reinforces the realisation of how much affected we've been under the isolation.<br /> <br /> We aren't renewing our London office lease when it comes up in September. I think at some point we'll get another one, smaller and nicer, but we'll never go back to having everyone in every day.<br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.80&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.80"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_81"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_81"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">23 Jun 2020 13:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jun 2020 13:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">81 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.81">42608.81</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.74#a42608_79" target="_self">42608.79</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I feel exactly the same way. <br /> <br /> While working from home is convenient, and I'm actually more productive (cos of less distractions), I'm missing people and though we have meetings over Teams every day, you don't get the same experience as being in a room with other people. It's difficult to gauge reactions, whether people are actually listening etc... <br /> <br /> I didn't think I ever would, but I'm missing the commute into work. A 10 minute walk to the station, 20min journey and another 15min walk to get to the office offers a bit of mental space, some thinking and contemplation time, while also being able to zone out and just listen to some music. <br /> <br /> Sounds like you CEO is cut from the same mould as ours. He's said that though the offices are open, only come back when you're ready to, we're still formulating a plan on seating and the number of people that can be safely accommodated on each floor. <br /> <br /> I've got asthma, so am trying to leave this as long as possible to mitigate any chance of infection, but also don't want to become a hermit. It's scary though how quickly I've got used to hardly moving all day. I've got my work stuff set up on a desk in the room I use as a drawing room and it's entirely possible I could stay in here all day. <span class="emoticon e_csad" title=":C"><span class="e__">:C</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.81&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.81"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_82"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_82"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">23 Jun 2020 13:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jun 2020 18:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">82 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.82">42608.82</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.74#a42608_80" target="_self">42608.80</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That sounds utterly shit. I can only hope they are being pressured from above on their sides, but it is often the case they just have no consideration for the people down the chain.<br /> <br /> I think returning for a couple of days a week might be a good balance, but currently I've said if it is encouraged or does happen then I'd want to move back to our old office in a different part of the building so there's at least some isolation/separation across teams/site.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.82&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.82"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_83"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_83"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">23 Jun 2020 13:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Jun 2020 13:42"></span></span> <span class="message_count">83 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.83">42608.83</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.74#a42608_81" target="_self">42608.81</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quote"><b>quote:</b> <a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.81">graphitone</a>I didn't think I ever would, but I'm missing the commute into work. A 10 minute walk to the station, 20min journey and another 15min walk to get to the office offers a bit of mental space, some thinking and contemplation time, while also being able to zone out and just listen to some music.</div> <p>I kind of miss it, though more from being tired of only seeing my little suburban neighborhood and missing the bustle of down town. OTOH I have a splendid balcony to relax on, which I do quite often throughout the day -- that's something I don't have at the office, and will sorely miss once it all starts back up.</p> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 23 Jun 2020 13:36 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.83&return_msg=42608.74" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.83"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42608.84" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>