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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.0&return_msg=42608.37"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.41">41–50</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.181">181–183</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42608.37">What are we all doing for a living?</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42608_37_183_10"> <a name="a42608_37"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_37"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time"> 4 May 2020 18:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: andy <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 May 2020 18:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">37 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.37">42608.37</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.36">42608.36</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yay!<br /> <br /> Do you feel like Facebook is like, morally salvageable and all that? I use it a little bit and own an Oculus thing and sometimes wonder if it's all evil, but it gets quite wearying trying to keep on top of that for everything.<br /> <br /> God but those days were fun. I don't have nearly the time to be in shenanigans like that anymore. Still, just built a Lego Technic Dodge Charger with my six-year-old, so there's that.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.37&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.37"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_38"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_38"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: andy<span class="message_time"> 4 May 2020 20:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 May 2020 15:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">38 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.38">42608.38</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.37#a42608_37" target="_self">42608.37</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I was verrrrry cynical when I joined (I was an outright critic), but thought worst case it'd look great on my CV for whatever is next, and I'd have some good stories. <br /> <br /> But 5 months in I can't see how any of the conspiracy theories are true about Facebook's bad intentions - in fact working in Integrity I see how much effort (10,000s of employees/contractors) and money (billions) is being spent trying to squash any badness. <br /> <br /> I haven't quite switched to the "facebook is a force for good" end of the spectrum, but I at least am conscious that the ratio of good:bad news coverage we get doesn't seem to be proportionate to the actual ratio of good:bad things that are enabled because of facebook/instagram/whatsapp. particularly mindful of this at present, as tools like ours are making isolation a little less... isolated!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.38&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.38"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_39"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_39"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time"> 4 May 2020 23:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: andy <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 May 2020 02:13"></span></span> <span class="message_count">39 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.39">42608.39</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.36">42608.36</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Woah, blast from the past! Nice to hear all's good!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.39&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.39"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_40"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_40"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 5 May 2020 09:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: andy <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 May 2020 11:15"></span></span> <span class="message_count">40 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.40">42608.40</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.37#a42608_38" target="_self">42608.38</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <i>> But 5 months in I can't see...</i> <p>So you're currently around OT level II...?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.40&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.40"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_41"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_41"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: andy<span class="message_time"> 5 May 2020 11:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 May 2020 13:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">41 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.41">42608.41</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.37#a42608_40" target="_self">42608.40</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <img alt="" src="https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--rpkJSRLE--/c_fit,g_north_west,h_840,w_768/co_000000,e_outline:40/co_000000,e_outline:inner_fill:1/co_ffffff,e_outline:40/co_ffffff,e_outline:inner_fill:1/co_bbbbbb,e_outline:3:1000/c_mpad,g_center,h_1260,w_1260/b_rgb:eeeeee/c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1558898648/production/designs/4931175_0.jpg?2" style="width:630px;height:630px;" /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.41&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.41"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_42"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_42"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mikee<span class="message_time"> 6 May 2020 09:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 May 2020 09:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">42 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.42">42608.42</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.1">42608.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Principal Software Engineer for large betting company.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.42&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.42"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_43"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_43"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 6 May 2020 09:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: andy <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 May 2020 21:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">43 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.43">42608.43</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.36">42608.36</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Doesn't surprise me that someone on here has ended up with a job at Facebook.<br /> <br /> I'll always have mixed feelings about Facebook and the related empire. I find how much control they have (or can be harnessed) as very worrying.<br /> <br /> I've always generally been fairly comfortable with my data being the currency. Will I pay cash money for access to a social network? Nope. And at the end of the day things cost money to run.<br /> <br /> Facebook were right place, right time and got the critical mass to make them dominate the market.<br /> <br /> I'd say my biggest issue was them buying Instagram and WhatsApp.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.43&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.43"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_44"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_44"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time"> 6 May 2020 15:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Mikee <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 May 2020 15:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">44 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.44">42608.44</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.37#a42608_42" target="_self">42608.42</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Is it in Leeds by any chance? I visited them a year or so ago.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.44&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.44"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_45"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_45"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mikee<span class="message_time"> 6 May 2020 15:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 May 2020 15:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">45 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.45">42608.45</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.37#a42608_44" target="_self">42608.44</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah - Sky Bet. Both William Hill and Sky Bet are in Leeds.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.45&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.45"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42608_46"></a><div class="message" id="message_42608_46"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time"> 6 May 2020 15:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Mikee <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 May 2020 15:31"></span></span> <span class="message_count">46 of 183</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.46">42608.46</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42608.37#a42608_45" target="_self">42608.45</a></div> <div class="message_body"> oh, so they are too. It's only Sky Bet I've visited but I've worked with both over the years. I don't suppose you mix much with the sponsorship team but it's that lot I deal with. More or less evil than Facebook, since we're talking about it? Sport means I indirectly work with so much bad stuff I'm sure.<br /> <br /> One of your dev colleagues is the brother of a motion designer I worked with until he cycled all the way to New Zealand to escape us. Small world/Big world in one sentence!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42608.46&return_msg=42608.37" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42608.46"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42608.47" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>