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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.0&return_msg=42603.58"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.41">41–50</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.51">51–60</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.61">61–70</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.71">71–76</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42603.58">Lockdown fiddling</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42603_58_76_10"> <a name="a42603_58"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_58"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 15:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 15:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">58 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58">42603.58</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.56">42603.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Mentioned it earlier in thread, I did a do-release-upgrade a bit back on my ubuntu server. Never again. Time consuming and too many issues. Fresh next time.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.58&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.58"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_59"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_59"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 15:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 16:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">59 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.59">42603.59</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58#a42603_58" target="_self">42603.58</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I did Fedora 27-28 a coupla years ago and don't recall any problems or absurd slowness, but this (my 'new' pc) has an Athlon x4 950 and had 16G (32 now).<br /> <br /> I know from some virtualbox installs that recent Fedoras really don't get along well with constrained memory. The FC32 kernel has something called EarlyOOM which might help it (the old pc) cope better.<br /> <br /> Anyhoo it's done and seems to be working well. Running it from vnc on Windows 7 atm, no obvious speed/memory issues from the old pc (obviously slower than the new).<br /> <br /> Nice to finally see GIMP 2.0 in action.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 7 May 2020 15:40 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.59&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.59"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_60"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_60"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 16:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 16:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">60 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.60">42603.60</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.57">42603.57</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Almost done.<br /> <br /> I went for a simple set up in the end: latest Raspbian with Samba. I've decided to reproduce what I have on my Windows Plex box where the Plex libraries and backup folders are copied overnight to duplicate drives. The backup folders will be moved to the Pi box. If the whole lot blows up I'm stuffed, but it's far more likely that a single drive will fail. I use robocopy on windows and an rsync cron job on Raspbian should be pretty similar.<br /> <br /> The actual physical build is always more fiddly and troublesome than anticipated. I could just connect everything up and hide it under a desk, but then I thought I could stick it on a board. Then I found a nice biscuit tin. That's when I discovered that none of the cables were as flexible and forgiving as I'd hoped and the tin need ventilating which means putting grommets onto holes and the only ones I have left are the sealed type. Then how to mount the drives etc. etc. <br /> <br /> But almost done. I'll stick a picture up when I've finished.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.60&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.60"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_61"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_61"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 16:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 17:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">61 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.61">42603.61</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58#a42603_59" target="_self">42603.59</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Have you had a look at Glimpse? (GIMP fork)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.61&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.61"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_62"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_62"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 17:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 May 2020 08:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">62 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.62">42603.62</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58#a42603_61" target="_self">42603.61</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Never heard of it.<br /> <br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.62&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.62"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_63"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_63"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 18:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 22:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">63 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.63">42603.63</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58#a42603_62" target="_self">42603.62</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Re-branded GIMP with bugs added, not worth wasting time on. <p><small></TWR></small></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.63&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.63"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_64"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_64"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 22:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 May 2020 09:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">64 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.64">42603.64</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58#a42603_63" target="_self">42603.63</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That was my take.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.64&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.64"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_65"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_65"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 8 May 2020 08:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 May 2020 09:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">65 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.65">42603.65</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58#a42603_63" target="_self">42603.63</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Think there's any future in it? Seemed like a good attempt to make it more user friendly and get away from the neckbeard weirdos who insist on it being called GIMP.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.65&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.65"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_66"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_66"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 8 May 2020 10:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 May 2020 10:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">66 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.66">42603.66</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58#a42603_65" target="_self">42603.65</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <i>> get away from the neckbeard weirdos who insist on it being called GIMP.</i> <p>And into the embrace of the blustering snowflakes who want everyone swathed in bubblewrap? ¬_¬ </p><br /> <p>Name calling is unconstructive, and rarely the best way to build collaboration. </p><p>As it stands, I doubt the future of a four person project that wants to both extend a complex application <em>and</em> rewrite it from scratch <em>at the same time</em>, and who say they want a better UI, but almost a year in and... well, what they've presented would likely get a U grade at school.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.66&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.66"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_67"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_67"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 8 May 2020 11:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 May 2020 17:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">67 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.67">42603.67</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58#a42603_66" target="_self">42603.66</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Or in the pursuit of more widespread adoption, and then hopefully more contribution as a result, you'd look to change the name wouldn't you?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.67&return_msg=42603.58" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.67"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42603.68" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>