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I bought my daughter a car battery charger from Amazon for Christmas*. It was pulled out for its first use a couple of weeks back (working from home = flat battery) and died completely after 1 hour. You and I might think that a battery charger that fails during one use in the first six months of its life warrants a refund or a replacement or a fully paid repair. Not Amazon. Too late for a return they say. Once again the only option in their returns system at this point is to send a note to the third party supplier. What follows is too boring - but yes, very frustrating. The systems work fine for most people and they know that a good proportion of complainants will simply give up eventually. If they annoy/lose a small number of customers that's just a small overhead. Much cheaper for Sky, Virgin, Amazon than staffing phones/email addresses, or building a really responsive online system.<br /> <br /> *she wanted one<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 24 Apr 2020 13:13 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.52&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.52"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_53"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_53"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">28 Apr 2020 17:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Apr 2020 17:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">53 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.53">42603.53</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.52#a42603_52" target="_self">42603.52</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Got the Pi 4 set up with the two drives on a hub. Currently configured as raid 1 using OMV. Not especially difficult to set up although I have discovered that the Pi 4 doesn't boot or reboot reliably with the USB hub powered. It works fine as a passive hub, but I suspect it may struggle if there's a lot of IO and definitely if I want to add more drives.<br /> <br /> The most likely theory is that the Pi 4 doesn't like power coming back down its rails from the hub, so I may see if I can snip the power wire in the cable*.<br /> <br /> Not convinced by OMV for my system. It's a very pretty piece of software with loads of features but probably overkill for me. I'm also not at all certain of the benefit of raid 1 when I only have two 1TB drives. I'll probably blow the whole lot away and just set up some Samba shares.<br /> <br /> *which I've since discovered <em>may</em> stop it connecting.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 28 Apr 2020 17:50 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.53&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.53"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_54"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_54"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 6 May 2020 10:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">54 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.54">42603.54</a></div> <div class="message_body"> For those wondering how to configure their xstartup file in fedora to launch an xfce session in vncserver, here it is:<br /> <pre> #!/bin/sh # # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: # unset SESSION_MANAGER unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc # [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey vncconfig -iconic & x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & xfce4-session &</pre> <br /> Yesterday I did this after much googling (I already knew how to do it in Ubuntu/Debian) and false starts including xrdp, which I could only get to launch gnome desktop, a resource hog on my severely constrained old pc. The capper was remembering to append :1 to the ip in the vnc client. After all this fiddling my keyboard stopped responding, though the mouse continued to work. After a reboot got the keyboard back.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 6 May 2020 12:52 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_attachments"> <span>Attachments:</span> <ul> <li><span class="image attach"></span><a href="get_attachment.php?webtag=DEFAULT&hash=c63bc1b386f5bdcfef669bd6aaa9136f&filename=Screenshot_2020-05-06_08-51-07.jpg" target="_blank">Screenshot_2020-05-06_08-51-07.jpg</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.54&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.54"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_55"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_55"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 6 May 2020 14:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">55 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.55">42603.55</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Upgrading Fedora 31 to 32 on an Athlon x2 4850e with 2G is like watching paint dry.<br /> <br /> After ~2-hours, it is 21% complete. Thank fuck this isn't my main work pc any more.<br /> <br /> <span class="emoticon e_shock" title=":-O"><span class="e__">:-O</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.55&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.55"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_56"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_56"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 6 May 2020 17:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">56 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.56">42603.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Upgrade completed successfully ~5-hours later... <span class="emoticon e_eek" title="8-O"><span class="e__">8-O</span></span> <br /> <br /> ISTR the clean install of Fedora 31 server edition + xfce desktop + ass't apps and tweaks last month took about half as long.<br /> <br /> Oh well, I suppose I don't have to go through it all again for a whole year.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.56&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.56"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_57"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_57"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 15:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 15:33"></span></span> <span class="message_count">57 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.57">42603.57</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.52#a42603_53" target="_self">42603.53</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How's it going?<br /> <br /> More and more toying with the idea and a Pi may be what I eventually use. Will be a post-lockdown thing. And I want to wait for drive prices to lower quite a bit.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.57&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.57"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_58"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_58"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 15:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 15:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">58 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.58">42603.58</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.52#a42603_56" target="_self">42603.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Mentioned it earlier in thread, I did a do-release-upgrade a bit back on my ubuntu server. Never again. Time consuming and too many issues. Fresh next time.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.58&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.58"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_59"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_59"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 15:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 16:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">59 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.59">42603.59</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.52#a42603_58" target="_self">42603.58</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I did Fedora 27-28 a coupla years ago and don't recall any problems or absurd slowness, but this (my 'new' pc) has an Athlon x4 950 and had 16G (32 now).<br /> <br /> I know from some virtualbox installs that recent Fedoras really don't get along well with constrained memory. The FC32 kernel has something called EarlyOOM which might help it (the old pc) cope better.<br /> <br /> Anyhoo it's done and seems to be working well. Running it from vnc on Windows 7 atm, no obvious speed/memory issues from the old pc (obviously slower than the new).<br /> <br /> Nice to finally see GIMP 2.0 in action.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 7 May 2020 15:40 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.59&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.59"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_60"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_60"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 16:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 16:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">60 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.60">42603.60</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.52#a42603_57" target="_self">42603.57</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Almost done.<br /> <br /> I went for a simple set up in the end: latest Raspbian with Samba. I've decided to reproduce what I have on my Windows Plex box where the Plex libraries and backup folders are copied overnight to duplicate drives. The backup folders will be moved to the Pi box. If the whole lot blows up I'm stuffed, but it's far more likely that a single drive will fail. I use robocopy on windows and an rsync cron job on Raspbian should be pretty similar.<br /> <br /> The actual physical build is always more fiddly and troublesome than anticipated. I could just connect everything up and hide it under a desk, but then I thought I could stick it on a board. Then I found a nice biscuit tin. That's when I discovered that none of the cables were as flexible and forgiving as I'd hoped and the tin need ventilating which means putting grommets onto holes and the only ones I have left are the sealed type. Then how to mount the drives etc. etc. <br /> <br /> But almost done. I'll stick a picture up when I've finished.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.60&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.60"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42603_61"></a><div class="message" id="message_42603_61"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 7 May 2020 16:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 7 May 2020 17:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">61 of 76</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.61">42603.61</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42603.52#a42603_59" target="_self">42603.59</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Have you had a look at Glimpse? (GIMP fork)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42603.61&return_msg=42603.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42603.61"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42603.62" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>