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Imagine all those experiments gone wrong with Poitín.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42505.32&return_msg=42505.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42505.32"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42505_33"></a><div class="message" id="message_42505_33"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Dec 2019 20:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">33 of 94</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.33">42505.33</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Boy on floor gaffe = hung parliament territory?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42505.33&return_msg=42505.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42505.33"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42505_34"></a><div class="message" id="message_42505_34"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 9 Dec 2019 21:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Dec 2019 01:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">34 of 94</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.34">42505.34</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.30#a42505_33" target="_self">42505.33</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Nope. Tory majority still. No one gives a fuck unfortunately. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42505.34&return_msg=42505.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42505.34"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42505_35"></a><div class="message" id="message_42505_35"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">10 Dec 2019 09:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Dec 2019 13:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">35 of 94</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.35">42505.35</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.30#a42505_33" target="_self">42505.33</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I agree with Ant, unfortunately. The Tories won some time ago by pressing home the myth that they will make Brexit go away. Labour's more rational approach hasn't the same strength.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42505.35&return_msg=42505.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42505.35"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42505_36"></a><div class="message" id="message_42505_36"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">10 Dec 2019 13:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Dec 2019 08:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">36 of 94</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.36">42505.36</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.30#a42505_35" target="_self">42505.35</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The media pile-on hasn't helped, has it.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42505.36&return_msg=42505.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42505.36"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42505_37"></a><div class="message" id="message_42505_37"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time">10 Dec 2019 18:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Dec 2019 19:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">37 of 94</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.37">42505.37</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.30#a42505_34" target="_self">42505.34</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Not that they only don't give a fuck, they are also claiming it is <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/10/woman-says-account-hacked-to-post-fake-story-about-hospital-boy">fake</a> despite the hospital already apologising for the mistreatment of the boy.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42505.37&return_msg=42505.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42505.37"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42505_38"></a><div class="message" id="message_42505_38"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">10 Dec 2019 18:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Dec 2019 19:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">38 of 94</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.38">42505.38</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.30#a42505_36" target="_self">42505.36</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The media pile-on has to be experienced to be believed. BBC News has given up all pretence of impartiality (although obviously they do actually <em>pretend</em> to be impartial) and whenever possible they lead on almost unchallenged anti-labour stories. Often these are padded out with a piece-to-camera by Laura Kuenssberg whose journalism consists mainly of incisive statements such as 'there is no doubt that...' followed by some contentious claim that Corbyn is, for instance, a liability to Labour's electoral chances. Her evidence is commonly that 'this is what one hears on the doorsteps...' which meaningless anecdotal evidence is exactly what Tory politicians have told her - or she has cleverly thought up with her own brain. This is an almost verbatim account of what she said on the BBC prime 6 o'clock news today.<br /> <br /> It's why I prefer alternative news sources in the UK. Channel 4 is a commercial channel but was established with public funding and has a charter that includes due-impartiality in news reportage. It is far better than the BBC but has recently been threatened by the Tory Party. They held a leaders debate on the environment that Johnson and Farage wouldn't attend. Channel 4 empty-seated them with melting ice-sculptures. I even prefer sources like Sky News, because at least they aren't pretending to be even handed. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42505.38&return_msg=42505.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42505.38"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42505_39"></a><div class="message" id="message_42505_39"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">10 Dec 2019 20:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 11 Dec 2019 18:03"></span></span> <span class="message_count">39 of 94</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.39">42505.39</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42505.30#a42505_37" target="_self">42505.37</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <a href="https://bylinetimes.com/2019/12/10/trolls-sock-puppets-and-useful-idiots-an-anatomy-of-an-election-disinformation-campaign/">https://bylinetimes.com/2019/12/10/trolls-sock-puppets-and-useful-idiots-an-anatomy-of-an-election-disinformation-campaign/</a><br /> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">The failure to realise that hiding your face does not make you invisible, or that stealing a reporter’s phone does not make the report go away, suggests that – under pressure – the leader of the Conservative Party has the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41jSdOQQpv0">social cognitive abilities of a four-year-old</a>.</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42505.39&return_msg=42505.30" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42505.39"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42505.40" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>