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I'm a fan of radio, though only whilst commuting 20 mins each way these days, from the point of view of not being in control of what I listen to. That translates well to the likes of Spotify and Google Play Music, where I can let them decide what I listen to. I can pick either a song or artist and let the service play based on that selection. Can often mean I discover something new (or old) I like, or it plays songs I already know and enjoy.<br /> <br /> Then there's the discovery and new releases side of things, based around my likes. I don't exactly go to gigs or find myself immersed in new music like I used to, so things like that are appreciated.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 29 Apr 2019 21:51 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.99&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.99"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_100"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_100"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2019 21:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2019 09:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">100 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.100">42301.100</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.90">42301.90</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It does seem to be loved. I haven't tried it yet - do you love it? <br /><br /> I am kind of having issues with what is undoubtedly some very clever software. I look at a program like Dopamine that asks me questions during installation like "where do you keep your music" and then follows that with a very familiar folder search dialog, and then shows me my music that it has successfully found. I think that makes sense. Then I look at many others that assume a specific sophistication around prior music storage as though this is a music-player choice switch - or something else. Maybe I'm looking for something very specific: a simple music player which doesn't hide its capabilty in layers of complexity.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.100&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.100"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_101"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_101"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2019 21:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Apr 2019 22:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">101 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.101">42301.101</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.93">42301.93</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Windows 10. It surprised me too because I'd heard how simple it was.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.101&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.101"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_102"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_102"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2019 22:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2019 19:15"></span></span> <span class="message_count">102 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.102">42301.102</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.92">42301.92</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yes, that might be useful. I did stump up for a DBpoweramp licence many years ago. Can't imagine it's still valid. We also have several hundred vinyl LPs to think about. I would love my trusty Systemdek to be allowed space in the brave new world - but it isn't going to happen (it hasn't yet so I can't imagine that will change) so the LPs will need to be converted as well. Probably WAV first and then... Still, that's another problem.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.102&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.102"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_103"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_103"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">29 Apr 2019 22:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2019 05:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">103 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.103">42301.103</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.99#a42301_101" target="_self">42301.101</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Maybe it's loads more complicated in Windows 10, like pretty much everything else? In Windows 7, I pointed it at my Ubuntu file server samba shared music folder (organized by album, as ripped) and musicbee automagically populated its library by artist/album/genre and even hunted up the album art all without me lifting a finger. Did this on my pc and my wife's pc (also Windows 7), no muss, no fuss. I like that it has a built-in equalizer too. Only thing I got wring was I dumped both mp3 and flac into the same folder (per album), but that won't be too hard to fix.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.103&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.103"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_104"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_104"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2019 05:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2019 09:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">104 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.104">42301.104</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.99#a42301_103" target="_self">42301.103</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Peter and you have persuaded me. I'll try again today.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.104&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.104"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_105"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_105"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2019 07:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2019 07:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">105 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.105">42301.105</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.99#a42301_104" target="_self">42301.104</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well, fair play to advocates of MusicBee. Lying in bed this morning, reading over this thread, I logged on to the music PC and tried again. Blow me down if it didn't work perfectly. One major difference during the installation was that during the setup dialog that asks for folders to search for music, this time after I selected the folder with the FLAC files, it actually appeared in the list of folders to search. Last time even though I followed the same procedure, only the default Windows music folder (empty) was listed after I selected, and nothing I did subsequently to make it find the music had any effect. Maybe something failed in the installation - who knows?<br /><br /> Anyway, now I have two players to try against each other.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.105&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.105"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_106"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_106"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2019 07:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2019 09:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">106 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.106">42301.106</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.99#a42301_103" target="_self">42301.103</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">even hunted up the album art all without me lifting a finger</div> <br /> Yeah, it didn't do this bit which was a surprise. It actually appeared to have found some of the album art, which showed up on track listings, but none of the covers next to the albums were there. <br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.106&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.106"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_107"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_107"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2019 09:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2019 10:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">107 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.107">42301.107</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.91">42301.91</a></div> <div class="message_body"> "What's your own media player of choice, Milko Bar Kid?"<br /><br /> realistically nowadays, Spotify for most of the time. Discover Weekly gets me through a lot of the week very nicely. In the office da kidz choose the music so I'm all hip to the latest London trends, innit. We've recently had a CD revival in the house as li'l Dylan is able to get to grips with that pretty nicely (faves: Mr Scruff, the first Gorillaz record - he's probably dated by when I bought a lot of CDs although that last one is Tina's). We had a big old iPod Classic hooked up to speakers for a while too.<br /> I've got Kodi/XBMC on a Mac Mini lined up for playing MP3s but it's a good long time since I used it for that, it's our main way of watching TV/movies at the moment. Having just a couple of nights ago wired in a reasonably fancy sound system I should probably give it another go.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 30 Apr 2019 11:00 by MILKO</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.107&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.107"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_108"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_108"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">30 Apr 2019 11:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 30 Apr 2019 11:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">108 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.108">42301.108</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.99#a42301_107" target="_self">42301.107</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I should add, I don't like Spotify's relationship with music artists one bit. It's an excellent discovery tool (albeit it's good not to rely on it entirely) and it's very good at generating playlists for me. But their rate of pay for musicians is shite and it's having/going to have a weird effect on the way music is made and sold due to attempts at gaming the algorithms. I try to buy something from artists I like, separately (so I have a few unopened CDs of albums I've saved on there) if I can't get to see them live - something that's gotten much harder since sprogging. Bandcamp is also a much nicer way to pay musicians for MP3s. <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 30 Apr 2019 11:01 by MILKO</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.108&return_msg=42301.99" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.108"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42301.109" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>