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class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52">42301.52</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.50">42301.50</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Got all the bits now but haven't got round to building it yet.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.52&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.52"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_53"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_53"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 09:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 09:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">53 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.53">42301.53</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_52" target="_self">42301.52</a></div> <div class="message_body"> But the tiny little motherboard and case are very cute.<br /><br /> Here they are next to a medium tower case and my size 9 for scale.<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_attachments"> <span>Attachments:</span> <ul> <li><span class="image attach"></span><a href="get_attachment.php?webtag=DEFAULT&hash=cbd1ed61de963f3d92cf45a5a6a5c694&filename=My Right Foot.jpg" target="_blank">My Right Foot.jpg</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.53&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.53"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_54"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_54"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 09:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 09:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">54 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.54">42301.54</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_53" target="_self">42301.53</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Teeny.<br /> What was the reason for STX over a NUC or similar barebones "nettop" type device.<br /> Though I know nettops aren't exactly widespread these days. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.54&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.54"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_55"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_55"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 11:50</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 15:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">55 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.55">42301.55</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_54" target="_self">42301.54</a></div> <div class="message_body"> There are quite a few mini-PCs around from companies like Beelink and AcePC. They vary in spec from very low-powered Atoms and Celerons up to i7 with 16GB tbh. Most come with Windows 10 or a flavour of Android. That's fine, but I also wanted to have at least 2TB of disk space accessible over ethernet (Gigabit) with a further 2TB to back up the main disk. Almost none of the barebones or built boxes allow for additional drives. I could probably do it using external drives plugged into a mini-PC but there's a huge difference between transferring files over a Gigabit link and over a Gigabit link plus a USB port. Anyway, it was all starting to look a bit cumbersome for something I want to sit in view.<br /><br /> The little Silverstone case has room for a couple of 2.5" drives with proper mounting points. The STX board has 2 SATA headers and comes with matching connectors, plus it has an M.2 slot for a third (PCIe) drive to boot from. So I can put everything into one box and hang a little Cyrus DAC from a USB port at the back. I can control the lot with an eSYNiC mini keyboard and use the telly as a monitor.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.55&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.55"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_56"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_56"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 15:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 16:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">56 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.56">42301.56</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_55" target="_self">42301.55</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Gotcha. Thought it would be storage that was the hold up if you didn't want the storage elsewhere on the network. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.56&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.56"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_57"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_57"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 16:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 16:13"></span></span> <span class="message_count">57 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.57">42301.57</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_55" target="_self">42301.55</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">there's a huge difference between transferring files over a Gigabit link and over a Gigabit link plus a USB port</div> <p>It's pretty negligible with USB 3 IME.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.57&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.57"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_58"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_58"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 16:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 19:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">58 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.58">42301.58</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_56" target="_self">42301.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Talking of gotcha, just made a start at putting the little PC together. The 2.5" drives sit next to each other on the bottom of the case with pre-drilled screw holes and little 'dimples' for positioning. The mobo has risers at each corner that hold it clear above them. There are little riser pin-sets on the mobo with custom clip-on cables taking power and data. They're just 2 cm too short to actually reach the furthest drive <span class="emoticon e_cry" title=":'-("><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_cry" title=":'-("><span class="e__">:'-(</span></span></span></span> <br /><br /> I'll probably have to bodge something now, maybe with some sticky fixer things to sit the drives at 90 degrees to how they should go.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.58&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.58"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_59"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_59"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 16:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 17:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">59 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.59">42301.59</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_57" target="_self">42301.57</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Really? I find that I get a pretty steady 65 to 90 MB/s disk to disk, depending on what else is using the network, whereas to a USB drive it may start around the same but after a few seconds when the cache has gone it drops to a pretty poor 5 to 10 MB/s usually less. And that's with USB 3.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.59&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.59"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_60"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_60"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 17:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 22:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">60 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.60">42301.60</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_59" target="_self">42301.59</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Desktop or laptop drives?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.60&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.60"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_61"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_61"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 9 Apr 2019 19:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Apr 2019 22:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">61 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.61">42301.61</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.52#a42301_59" target="_self">42301.59</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Gotta agree with Smithy. I've got some large USB 3 drives on my server and they get a consistent 80-90 MB/s over my gigabit network. Obviously slower for smaller files. But the bottleneck is usually the read end (card reader, other drive etc) rather than the USB 3 drive. Can't really tell the difference from them being internal drives. I was pleasantly surprised when I first got a proper USB 3 drive, wasn't expecting that speed. <br /> <br /> An old drive? Bad enclosure? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.61&return_msg=42301.52" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.61"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42301.62" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>