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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.0&return_msg=42301.21"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.31">31–40</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.161">161–168</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42301.21">Music thingummy</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42301_21_168_10"> <a name="a42301_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 13:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 13:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21">42301.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.20">42301.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What OS and media player are you going for? And what format are you storing the music in?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.21&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 13:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 14:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.22">42301.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21#a42301_21" target="_self">42301.21</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I haven't yet decided on a media player. In some ways that's not so important because (as per my original post) it's quite important that Mrs WilliamA can get her Apple library and that we can both get at Spotify where we have playlists. As for other stored music, I'll probably settle on flac as I want to dump some of our hundreds of CDs, so several media players will do. OS will probably be Windows 10 as Mrs W knows her way around that.<br /><br /> On the storage side, we're mainly looking at music although some of my thinking is that extra disk space could help with the shortage on my main backup PC. <br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.22&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 13:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 14:14"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.23">42301.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.20">42301.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, smaller = order-of-magnitude more expensive. Must be a novelty/enthusiast/lack of demand thing.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.23&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_24"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_24"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 14:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 14:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">24 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.24">42301.24</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21#a42301_22" target="_self">42301.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">..although some of my thinking is that extra disk space could help with the shortage on my main backup PC. </div> <br /><br /> That's a thing I've found with using a full pc OS for a dedicated function: a slow mission-creep, because it can.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.24&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.24"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 15:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 16:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.25">42301.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21#a42301_23" target="_self">42301.23</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I can understand it, because the main market as far as the manufacturers are concerned is industrial and the whole thing is a bit of a moving target. Do the buyers want a traditional mobo in miniature or something far more granular: some kind of SoC arrangement without all the extras? The STX format is already a bit niche which is why the CPU and RAM support is out of date or patchy. The board I'm getting is socket 1151 but only CPUs up to 7th gen, and DDR4 although others boards are mainly DDR3. When I started looking I had no idea how many different attempts had been made to create a standard for embedded applications such as the Intel NUC things. I suppose the most popular very small form with home builders is mini-ITX and even that is on the wane. <br /><br /> I was after low(ish) processing power somewhere in the range of Celeron up to i3, but not as feeble as the Atom range which starts to struggle if anything serious is waved at it. I also wanted support for standard SATA drives. I thought it would be nice to use up some DDR4 SO-DIMM memory I have. It had to be small and preferably not use a big standard PSU and quiet so it can sit next to us without being annoying. Not much to ask.<br /><br /> Anybody got a spare i3? Pentium, Celeron??</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.25&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 16:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 17:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">26 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.26">42301.26</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21#a42301_25" target="_self">42301.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I use an old HP SFF office pc with athlon something, Ubuntu 18.04 for a home music & file server (MrsD.s old pc, she ran xp on it)... probably massively bigger than what you're going for, but free. It sits under my scanner so doesn't really eat up any extra space.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 1 Apr 2019 16:59 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.26&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_27"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_27"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 17:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 17:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">27 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.27">42301.27</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21#a42301_26" target="_self">42301.26</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":-D"><span class="e__">:-D</span></span> Yes, I'm aiming at about 6x7x4.5 inches. So a bit smaller. That said, my back-up PC is about the size of an enormous old desktop and has noisy Corsair water cooling, but it sits in the spare room so that's OK</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.27&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_28"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_28"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 18:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 18:43"></span></span> <span class="message_count">28 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.28">42301.28</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21#a42301_25" target="_self">42301.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> There's a punk to New Romantic progression. A visionary manufacturer strips out all the fat and offers a refreshing barebones machine that challenges users. Then to build business they start to offer add-ons and new iterations with greater capabilities. Before long, it's just another machine with all sorts of gingerbread and bloat lashed on. Then somebody has the bright idea of stripping out all the fat.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.28&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.28"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_29"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_29"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 18:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 18:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">29 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.29">42301.29</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21#a42301_28" target="_self">42301.28</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I prefer Bauhaus to Roccoco progression (I actually like both styles but, as I said, I've a low threshold of boredom).<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 1 Apr 2019 18:45 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.29&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.29"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_30"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_30"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time"> 1 Apr 2019 18:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Apr 2019 19:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">30 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.30">42301.30</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21#a42301_29" target="_self">42301.29</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's the circle of life.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.30&return_msg=42301.21" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.30"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42301.31" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>