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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.0&return_msg=42301.10"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.21">21–30</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.161">161–168</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42301.10">Music thingummy</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42301_10_168_10"> <a name="a42301_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2019 11:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2019 14:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10">42301.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.9">42301.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Pickup a relatively cheap touchscreen laptop and use the USB DAC?<br /> Or would that not be user friendly enough? <br /> One of the foldable ones where the screen can turn all the way back, then maybe find a way to mount it. <br /> <br /> My Dell laptop, Inspiron 13 5000 range, does that. And is it the Lenovo Yogas that do too?<br /> <br /> Been there with the Pi DACs and experienced the issues with noisy PSUs. Previously attempted to build a Pi based audio system for the bathroom. Was too unreliable and ended up with a Chromecast audio, which was more suitable for occasional usage.<br /> <br /> Still keep meaning to put together a small system for my dining room (read: dumping ground) so I can listen to music in a nice environment. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.10&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2019 13:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2019 14:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.11">42301.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.9">42301.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'll point you at the stuff I got for my kitchen setup, it's not a million miles away from what you're trying to do. If the kit list isn't in the thread I started last autumn-ish, I'll find it tonight. Out and about at the minute, so will link it when I can.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.11&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2019 16:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2019 16:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.12">42301.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10#a42301_10" target="_self">42301.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The laptop thing isn't a million miles from what I was pondering. <br /><br /><br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.12&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 1 Feb 2019 16:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Feb 2019 17:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.13">42301.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10#a42301_11" target="_self">42301.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That would be interesting - thanks</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.13&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time"> 2 Feb 2019 16:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Feb 2019 16:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.14">42301.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10#a42301_13" target="_self">42301.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> In addition to the Pi3 and the 7" touchscreen I got these:<br /><br /> DAC: <a href="http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/8-pi-dac.html">http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/8-pi-dac.html</a><br /> Amp:<a href="http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/25-pi-amp.html"> http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/25-pi-amp.html</a><br /> Amp power supply: <a href="http://iqaudio.co.uk/home/24-19v-power-brick-65w.html">http://iqaudio.co.uk/home/24-19v-power-brick-65w.html</a><br /><br /> They appear to have updated the hardware since I bought mine, so check for any incompatibilites if you go down this route.<br /><br /> I also got a pair of generic 8" speakers (Pyle brand) that could be mounted in the ceiling.<br /><br /> The amp board only has a small screw type connector for the speaker wires, so you're not going to get anything in there that has a large wire gauge. However, the cable I got was 15AWG and fits fine.<br /><br /> The sound quality is good (I mean we're not approaching £1000+ hifi seperates here, but it's way better than I expected) with no hiss or other cable noise distorting the music. That's all subjective of course and you'll no doubt find differences playing it through your speakers. I'm running Kodi and streaming the media from my NAS. I've got a few external BBC radio stations saved in there too.<br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.14&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 2 Feb 2019 17:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Feb 2019 19:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.15">42301.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10#a42301_14" target="_self">42301.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Looks like they've gone for a laptop type power supply and when looking at cheap Class D amplifier boards ages ago many people recommended a good laptop PSU if a linear supply was out of the budget, which for many people was since the actual amplifier boards (which were very good quality) came in at around £10. Currently using an old laptop PSU myself for the bathroom setup.<br /> <br /> I used a cheapo laptop PSU originally and the actual power supply started hissing, clearly couldn't cope with whatever the amplifier board wanted! </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.15&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 2 Feb 2019 17:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Feb 2019 19:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.16">42301.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10#a42301_14" target="_self">42301.14</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How do you power the Pi and the DAC+? The solutions I've seen to avoiding powering the DAC via the Pi's USB socket involve modding the DAC to add a power-in socket and possibly desoldering the track for the power connection to the Pi's header.<br /><br /> Edit: crossed with Ant<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 2 Feb 2019 17:18 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.16&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 2 Feb 2019 17:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Feb 2019 18:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.17">42301.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10#a42301_16" target="_self">42301.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think my solution to reduce or remove hiss/noise was to use a decent 5v USB power supply, but can't exactly remember if it worked 100%. I also remember having ground loop issues, so it may have been a ground loop isolator that fixed my problems. <br /> <br /> I wasn't using the type of high quality HATs that graphitone is using so it may all be related.<br /> <br /> That ground loop isolator is now in use in my car because of a similar issue with a noisy 5v USB supply and a Bluetooth adapter. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.17&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time"> 2 Feb 2019 19:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Feb 2019 21:13"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.18">42301.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10#a42301_16" target="_self">42301.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The Pi, DAC and amp are all powered from the laptop type PSU I linked to. It plugs into the amp itself and powers all three through the onboard connections.<br /><br /> In my setup, you can power the screen from the Pi too with the ribbon cabled included with the official touchscreen, but I kept getting the not-enough-power symbol appearing, so powered the screen seperately.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.18&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42301_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_42301_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 2 Feb 2019 22:22</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Feb 2019 23:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 168</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.19">42301.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42301.10#a42301_18" target="_self">42301.18</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Hmm. That really is interesting. I saw a version of the DAC pro pre-fitted with a socket for a power brick to connect to, but I forgot where it was and Google hasn't been my friend. I wonder why they don't make one when it's such a popular mod that HiFiBerry publish instructions online.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42301.19&return_msg=42301.10" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42301.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42301.20" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>