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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.0&return_msg=42218.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.11">11–20</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.31">31–36</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42218.1">PC-me-do</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42218_1_36_10"> <a name="a42218_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">17 Aug 2018 21:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1">42218.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm gonna need one of those desktop PC things. Anyone still know about them?<br /><br /> Application: 3D CAD & CAM, photoshop/lightroom, video editing. <br /><br /> I have an attic full of monitors that I, uh, 'acquired' from work so I'll want to run at least two of them on it.<br /><br /> Not fussed about gaming, but 3D CAD is a bitch on graphics so I'm going to need something that can do that. Anyone know if the cheap (P600 and K620 are around £200 I think?) Quadro cards are any good/better than a gaming card? I'll mainly be using SolidWorks and Fusion360 on it. <br /><br /> Should I go to the faff of self build, or just buy a box off a shelf? I've no idea what I'm doing with this stuff anymore <span class="emoticon e_acidcry" title="T_T"><span class="e__">T_T</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.1&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 2018 21:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Trigger <span><span class="image post_unread" title="Unread Message"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.2">42218.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1#a42218_1" target="_self">42218.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What do you think?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.2&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">17 Aug 2018 21:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 2018 21:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.3">42218.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1#a42218_2" target="_self">42218.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> He's no use, I'm going to need way more than 2gbtbh. Got 8gbtbh in my laptop and get low memory warnings when processing raw files in Lightroom <span class="emoticon e_embarrassed" title=":$"><span class="e__">:$</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.3&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 2018 21:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 2018 21:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.4">42218.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1#a42218_1" target="_self">42218.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Does 3D CAD definitely need/use graphics? <p>For 3D modelling it used to be that a good multi-core CPU was more significant, but I'm guessing since GPUs are more a thing it probably has gone in that direction, (unless it hasn't). </p><p>I don't know what a good CPU is anymore either. Whatever you get you'll probably get all your caches hacked anyway.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.4&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 2018 22:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 2018 22:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.5">42218.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1#a42218_3" target="_self">42218.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yep, 16GB minimum. I'm stuck with 8GB at work and constantly having to keep an eye and restart when it starts paging to disk, though most of it goes on the damned browsers (because they're all written by fucking idiots). <p>Lightroom since v5 is bloated shite however much memory you have.</p><p>The free alternatives are slowly improving - none of them are good enough yet, but hoping it wont be too long before they're viable.</p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 17 Aug 2018 22:02 by BOUGHTONP</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.5&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">17 Aug 2018 22:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Aug 2018 22:13"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.6">42218.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1#a42218_4" target="_self">42218.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Aye, 3D cad is very graphics card intensive, normally OpenGL rather than DirectX, and there's certainly a reliability boost by going with Quadro and certified drivers over consumer stuff, but what I'm struggling to find out is if the low end quadro I could afford would be any better performance than much higher end Geforce card. A Quadro P600 2GB card is about £185 on ebuyer, for roughly the same money I could get a GTX 1050 TI 4GB card and I've no idea how to compare the two cards <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":D"><span class="e__">:D</span></span><br /><br /> My old Samsung laptop had a Geforce 650M and it ran SolidEdge brilliantly for the most part. When it got stolen it was replaced by a PC Specialist laptop with a 750M that barely runs SolidEdge at all due to shitty hardware design and drivers I guess (I don't currently use SolidWorks but I plan to switch to it)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.6&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">17 Aug 2018 22:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Aug 2018 08:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.7">42218.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1#a42218_6" target="_self">42218.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Can you afford to buy both, benchmark, then return the lesser one within 28 days?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.7&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">18 Aug 2018 08:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Aug 2018 14:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.8">42218.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1#a42218_7" target="_self">42218.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Sure, but I'm far too lazy to do that and I'd just end up keeping both <span class="emoticon e_embarrassed" title=":$"><span class="e__">:$</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.8&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">18 Aug 2018 09:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">9 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.9">42218.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> So far I've worked out that I want at least an i5-8400, that's a little over twice as fast as my current i5-4200m. Pretty sure I'm going to go with a consumer graphics card so I can play Civ games in between working....<br /> <br /> I think Nvidia are announcing new cards on Monday so that could mean price drops on older stuff? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.9&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42218_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_42218_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">18 Aug 2018 09:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Aug 2018 09:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 36</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.10">42218.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42218.1#a42218_9" target="_self">42218.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> You may have already watched it<br /><br /><iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/G-90qEJAVkU" style="height:360px;margin:0px auto;width:480px;"></iframe><br /><br /> Simple explanation and benchmarks.<br /> Probably still means spending £££ though.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 18 Aug 2018 09:41 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42218.10&return_msg=42218.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42218.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42218.11" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>