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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.0&return_msg=42134.85"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.61">61–70</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.71">71–80</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.81">81–90</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.91">91–100</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.141">141–145</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42134.85">Once upon a time</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42134_85_145_10"> <a name="a42134_85"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_85"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">22 Mar 2018 15:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Mar 2018 16:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">85 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.85">42134.85</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.84">42134.84</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Is there still a benefit from running two sticks for a dual channel speed improvement? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.85&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.85"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_86"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_86"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">22 Mar 2018 15:50</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Mar 2018 16:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">86 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.86">42134.86</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.84">42134.84</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ah, the pitfalls of incompatible hardware.<br /><br /> I like this site for getting around those:<br /><br /><a href="https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/">https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/</a><br /><br /> It'll continually whittle the parts options down to only those that are compatible depending on what other kit you initially choose.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.86&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.86"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_87"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_87"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">22 Mar 2018 16:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Mar 2018 18:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">87 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.87">42134.87</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.85#a42134_85" target="_self">42134.85</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah maybe. OTOH if I want to max out the memory later, that's ~$200 in the bin.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.87&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.87"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_88"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_88"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">22 Mar 2018 16:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Mar 2018 17:05"></span></span> <span class="message_count">88 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.88">42134.88</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.85#a42134_86" target="_self">42134.86</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm usually pretty careful about buying new parts. I've been caught out by cannibalized parts (latest was trying to put "mac" memory in a pc, which is 1 notch off). Oh yeah, also had to put a new PSU into my case upside down.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 22 Mar 2018 16:41 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.88&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.88"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_89"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_89"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">23 Mar 2018 08:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Mar 2018 09:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">89 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.89">42134.89</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.85#a42134_88" target="_self">42134.88</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think part picking has come a long way, it's easier now than back in the day of Pentium 4s having specific RAM, DIP switches and the murky waters of setting IRQs for sound cards.<br /><br /> There are still a few gotchas, but there's a ton more resources to check you're getting it right.<br /><br /> Speaking of all this, I'm planning a PC upgrade for the missus. Custom PC this month featured an AMD APU build for under £400. I might hang on a month or two though, as they suggested you'd need to flash the motherboard's EFI to get it to recognise the CPU. Newer builds of the board should already have that in place. Not that I'm adverse to doing these things myself, but it keeps the onus on them to get it right and saves any returns/customer service hassle should the update go wrong for me.<br /><br /> Not got the parts list with me at work, but I'll see if I can find it tonight.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.89&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.89"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_90"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_90"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">23 Mar 2018 12:31</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Mar 2018 14:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">90 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.90">42134.90</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.85#a42134_89" target="_self">42134.89</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I was playing with part pucker last night and it gave that warning for rysen CPUs and mobos needing flashing.<br /> <br /> The worrying part is that it said that in order to do the flashing, you'll need to have a different, recognised CPU installed to be able to do it <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.90&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.90"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_91"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_91"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">23 Mar 2018 12:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">91 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.91">42134.91</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Placed the order after giving MrsD. a heads up. By waiting a day I saved another 5-bucks on the GPU! Now I've got to figure out a case (there are a couple of candidates home), and a Windows. Looks like I'm going to have a busy Easter.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.91&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.91"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_92"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_92"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">23 Mar 2018 12:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Mar 2018 17:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">92 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.92">42134.92</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.85#a42134_90" target="_self">42134.90</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Something to do with spectre/meltdown?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.92&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.92"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_93"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_93"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">23 Mar 2018 13:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Mar 2018 17:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">93 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.93">42134.93</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.85#a42134_90" target="_self">42134.90</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I've wondered that too. It's totally useless. If you've got a suitable CPU you're probably not looking to upgrade. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.93&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.93"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_94"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_94"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">23 Mar 2018 14:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 Mar 2018 14:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">94 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.94">42134.94</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.85#a42134_93" target="_self">42134.93</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/amd-sending-out-free-processors-to-solve-firmware-flashing-catch-22/">https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/amd-sending-out-free-processors-to-solve-firmware-flashing-catch-22/</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.94&return_msg=42134.85" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.94"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42134.95" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>