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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.0&return_msg=42134.55"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.41">41–50</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.51">51–60</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.61">61–70</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.141">141–145</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42134.55">Once upon a time</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42134_55_145_10"> <a name="a42134_55"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_55"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">18 Mar 2018 12:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Mar 2018 12:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">55 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55">42134.55</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.54">42134.54</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, to dual boot Windows 10 and something else Secure Boot needs to be off. UEFI can probably be on or off, but I think it's easier to have it on.<br /><br /> I ended up reading various guides which talked about having to copy boot sectors and all sorts, but thankfully I didn't need to do any of that. It was actually fairly trivial once I thought about it properly. <ul><li>Have only the empty SSD plugged in so the OS setups can't see any other OSes and get confused</li> <li>Disable Legacy Boot in BIOS (or definitely don't pick it)</li> <li>Run Win10 setup from USB media - making sure to pick UEFI boot option</li> <li>Partition drive in Win10 setup - I split it in half, let Win10 install on the first partition - it split that into boot and reserved bits itself as usual.</li> <li>Install Win10 - check it works</li> <li>Run Ubuntu (or whatever) setup from USB - UEFI boot</li> <li>Hopefully that sees you have a Windows installation and uses the extra unused unformatted partition</li> <li>Install 2nd OS</li> <li>Ubuntu 17.10 will sort the dual boot bootloader for you</li> <li>Reboot and pick Ubuntu or Windows Bootloader from the Grub screen</li> </ul> It currently has a 10s wait on boot, might reduce it since 10s feels like an age!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.55&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.55"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_56"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_56"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">18 Mar 2018 12:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Mar 2018 12:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">56 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.56">42134.56</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55#a42134_55" target="_self">42134.55</a></div> <div class="message_body"> OK, good to know... 18.04 LTS is going to be released in a few weeks (I've come to prefer the LTS versions because lazy). I installed a daily server build to an old work pc couple of weeks ago, bunged xfce and vnc on it, and it was one of the slicker Linux installs I've run in quite a while. Hit a couple of minor issues since, which may (probably) were unrelated to pre-release build. Got one (setting MySQL root login) fixed, and hoping the other, which is real legacy stuff (netatalk) will automagically sort itself out one day RSN. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.56&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.56"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_57"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_57"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">18 Mar 2018 12:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Mar 2018 13:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">57 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.57">42134.57</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55#a42134_56" target="_self">42134.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I usually do as well but I've found a few things I've wanted to use that weren't available or supported on 16.04. I've also had the issue of using a none LTS build and forgetting the lifespan is now very short.<br /> <br /> My server is still running 14.04 LTS. I'll probably consider upgrading that to 18.04 after the first point update.<br /> <br /> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 18 Mar 2018 17:33 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.57&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.57"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_58"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_58"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">18 Mar 2018 16:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 18 Mar 2018 17:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">58 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.58">42134.58</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55#a42134_55" target="_self">42134.55</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, I'd find 10s a bit long. I currently dual-boot Windows 7 and Windows 10 on my PC (Win7 being the default). I have it set to 3s, which I find to be a nice trade-off between giving me sufficient time to switch OS on those very rare occasions I boot into Windows 10, and not slowing down the boot process too much.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.58&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.58"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_59"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_59"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">18 Mar 2018 16:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Mar 2018 16:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">59 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.59">42134.59</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55#a42134_58" target="_self">42134.58</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Would be good if computers had physical boot configuration switches, so you could just flick it to setting A or B when turning on, and remove the need to have any startup delay.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.59&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.59"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_60"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_60"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">18 Mar 2018 23:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Mar 2018 06:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">60 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.60">42134.60</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55#a42134_55" target="_self">42134.55</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Whatever you set the delay to it will invariably be either far too long, or 1 second too short. Sometimes even at the same time.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.60&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.60"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_61"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_61"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">19 Mar 2018 14:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">61 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.61">42134.61</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Whilst we're in the mood for talking tech, I need some recommendations.<br /> <br /> I need a new iron. What's good? What's not?<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 19 Mar 2018 15:17 by ANT_THOMAS</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.61&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.61"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_62"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_62"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Mar 2018 15:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Mar 2018 15:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">62 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.62">42134.62</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55#a42134_61" target="_self">42134.61</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How far do you need to hit?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.62&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.62"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_63"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_63"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">19 Mar 2018 15:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Mar 2018 15:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">63 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.63">42134.63</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55#a42134_56" target="_self">42134.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Got my other 18.04 issue (netatalk) solved by following compile/make/install instructions for 16.10 (apparently 16.04 is too old, go figure). Yay me. <span class="emoticon e_partyblower" title=":-O~~~"><span class="e__">:-O~~~</span></span> <br /><br /> <a href="http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Install_Netatalk_3.1.11_on_Ubuntu_16.10_Yakkety">http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Install_Netatalk_3.1.11_on_Ubuntu_16.10_Yakkety</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.63&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.63"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42134_64"></a><div class="message" id="message_42134_64"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">19 Mar 2018 15:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Mar 2018 15:49"></span></span> <span class="message_count">64 of 145</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.64">42134.64</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42134.55#a42134_62" target="_self">42134.62</a></div> <div class="message_body"> From the tumble dryer to the wardrobe. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42134.64&return_msg=42134.55" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42134.64"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="42134.65" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>