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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.0&return_msg=42084.29"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.31">31–32</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42084.29">"Brexit" -ish</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42084_29_32_10"> <a name="a42084_29"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_29"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">20 Dec 2017 17:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Dec 2017 19:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">29 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.29">42084.29</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.25">42084.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> BMG had the least accurate of all the polls on the day before the General Election, and published EU membership predictions <a href="http://opinionbee.uk/polls/eu-membership/bmg">varying from +3/-10/+8 in a short period of time</a>, so a single result from them is not really sufficient evidence. <p>However, <a href="http://www.bmgresearch.co.uk/independent-poll-shift-toward-remain-at-height-of-brexit-negotiation-tensions/">their own write-up on this poll</a> is interesting, and indicates that people not voting in the referendum were split 50:50 a year ago and are now 80:20 remain, (whilst at the same time the graph there also suggests it's not <em>just</em> previously undecided people causing the difference).</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.29&return_msg=42084.29" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.29"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_30"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_30"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">20 Dec 2017 19:14</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 21 Dec 2017 16:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">30 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.30">42084.30</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.29#a42084_29" target="_self">42084.29</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The will of the people <em><strong>must</strong></em> be respected!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.30&return_msg=42084.29" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.30"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_31"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_31"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">23 Dec 2017 19:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">31 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.31">42084.31</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thanks for the "clarity". I won't pretend to completely understand it all, but the responses certainly make it more clear why the issue is complicated.<br /><br /> I suppose politicians will figure it a grey zone way to pull it off, but it certainly looks like the EU has the UK by the short hairs and will use this border issue to shake down the UK for more money and terms.<br /><br /><br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.31&return_msg=42084.29" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.31"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42084_32"></a><div class="message" id="message_42084_32"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Harry (HARRYN)<span class="message_time">25 Jan 2018 22:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">32 of 32</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42084.32">42084.32</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thanks for the insights. It is amazing to me that the presence of a border agent at cross over points would lead to people killing each other, but what do I know.<br /><br /> Growing up in N Ohio, we routinely traveled to the border area of the US and Canada. Obviously these are very distinct countries, but the relationship was more like "visiting your aunt and uncle's home". It is polite to knock, but everyone knows that you are always welcome.<br /><br /> Believe it or not, all that was needed was for the driver of the car to show their drivers license and everyone in the car was allowed through - both directions. <br /><br /> Commercial traffic was even more organized, as auto companies had component factories on both sides of the border, so that traffic was expedited.<br /><br /> I guess this is what is called a soft border?<br /><br /> Unfortunately, crossing this same US / CAN border today is immensely more complex. Sometimes it seems even harder than flying into Germany.<br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42084.32&return_msg=42084.29" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42084.32"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>