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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.0&return_msg=41867.2"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.21">21–22</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41867.2">7 or 10</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41867_2_22_10"> <a name="a41867_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time"> 5 Jan 2017 14:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Jan 2017 15:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.2">41867.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.1">41867.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I read <a href="https://itvision.altervista.org/why-windows-10-sucks.html">this</a> yesterday, and though definitely biased towards Win7 some points do hit home (not specifically aimed at gaming, but it's a good read).<br /><br /> There's an interesting bit about how to get it free if Jim refuses your request (not tried it myself, so no idea if it works).<br /> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote"> <h3>Free upgrade to Windows 10 after July 29, 2016</h3> <p>How to save money and upgrade to Windows 10 for free after the free upgrade offer expires? Activate any assistive technology in your Windows 7/8.1, for instance, click <img alt="Win Logo" height="23" src="https://itvision.altervista.org/icons/winlogo.png" title="Win Logo" width="30" /> + U and enable the onscreen keyboard and follow <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/accessibility/windows10upgrade">this link</a>. I've just saved you up to $199.</p> </div> <br /><br /> I've been using 10 for a while now and I've not had any problems with gaming, though when I tried upgrading my wife's PC the ageing GPU wasn't detected and AMD don't provide legacy Win10 drivers so she was stuck with a weird non-native resolution for her monitor meaning I had to roll her back to Win7. I realise that's a pretty specific problem, but maybe something to be aware of if you're using some old kit.<br /><br /> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 5 Jan 2017 14:49 by GRAPHITONE</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.2&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time"> 5 Jan 2017 15:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Jan 2017 15:18"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.3">41867.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.1">41867.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I haven't got any problem with Win10 apart from the start menu. I use Start10 to make it more like the old one.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.3&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 5 Jan 2017 17:22</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">4 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.4">41867.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I've gone for Windows 7.<br /> <br /> And it doesn't even have the drivers for my ethernet adapter. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.4&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time"> 5 Jan 2017 20:34</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 5 Jan 2017 23:15"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.5">41867.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.2#a41867_4" target="_self">41867.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_happycry" title=":'-D"><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_happycry" title=":'-D"><span class="e__">:'-D</span></span></span></span> <br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.5&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 6 Jan 2017 07:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Jan 2017 08:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.6">41867.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.1">41867.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Dx12 is Windows 10 only, I think. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.6&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">17 Feb 2017 08:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">7 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.7">41867.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> So I'm using 10 in my new job and it's absolutely fine.<br /> <br /> I'm guessing upgrading (rather than doing a fresh install) from 7 to 10 on a dual boot system will definitely ruin the bootloader again? <br /> <br /> Not that it was difficult to fix like, but annoying nonetheless. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.7&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">17 Feb 2017 10:22</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Feb 2017 10:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.8">41867.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.2#a41867_7" target="_self">41867.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Likely, I nuked windows 8 and installed 10 last week. <br /> <br /> <br /> You can switch off the telemetry shit with spybot antibeacon. <br /> <br /> And be careful if you have hardware that needs specific versions of drivers, as Windows update insists on updating them <span class="emoticon e_angry" title=":@"><span class="e__">:@</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.8&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">17 Feb 2017 11:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Feb 2017 12:59"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.9">41867.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.2#a41867_8" target="_self">41867.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I assume everyone just goes for 10 Pro? <br /> <br /> That's what I'm running at work at it seems fairly free of annoying shit. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.9&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">17 Feb 2017 13:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Feb 2017 13:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.10">41867.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.2#a41867_9" target="_self">41867.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> My license is only valid for Home. <br /> <br /> Pretty sure Pro also has the data mining nasties. Some can be disabled.by setting a Group Policy, others always run. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.10&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41867_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_41867_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">20 Feb 2017 16:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 20 Feb 2017 16:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 22</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.11">41867.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41867.2#a41867_9" target="_self">41867.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thing with Pro is that you used to be able to turn off a lot of the annoying shit via group policy, but then MS blocked a lot of this in the anniversary update as they want businesses to use the more expensive Enterprise.<br /><br /> Interestingly enough, I'm a contractor at one of the biggest companies in the world, and we've recently started rolling out Windows 10 Pro, so I guess they've found adequate way to suppress the nasties. For me, it's the forced updating which is the main reason I've not put 10 on any of my PCs. Well, that and MS's frankly appalling attitude of trying to ram it down everyone's throats last year.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41867.11&return_msg=41867.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41867.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41867.12" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>