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I haven't had one in eons, thought I still have all of my vinyl.<br /><br /> I was looking at a Technics sl1200MkII, but they are only available used or refurbished and come with no dust cover, mat or headshell and will have cosmetic flaws (to be expected). The Onkyo CP1050 seemed to be a good replacement, but reviews are not that strong due to a light platter. The Pioneer PLX1000 seems the best alternative, is new and comes fully packaged, only needing a cartridge.<br /><br /> Thoughts?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.1&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 14:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 02:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.2">41626.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_1" target="_self">41626.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Do Rega sell over there? I hear good things about them lately, but they might be a bit local, not sure. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.2&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 14:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 02:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.3">41626.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_1" target="_self">41626.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Depends on how much you want to spend!<br /><br /> Last Christmas, I got a ProJect Debut III from the missus. It's simple and no-frills because it focuses on sound over gadgets - which is what you want from a more budget turntable. It comes with an Ortofon cartridge and OM10 stylus, although I splashed out and replaced the stylus with an OM30 (wasn't cheap, but has made a very noticeable improvement to audio quality, and the Ortofon cartridge will take a variety of different styluses, so is good for upgradability).<br /><br /> Overall, I like it a lot! It looks nice, sleek and simple, it has a perspex lid, it doesn't skip when I'm plodding around my room, and the sound quality is very nice. Downsides are that you have to lift off the turntable itself and flip the belt to a different gear to change speeds, but the whole proces only takes 5 seconds. Also, it's a tad annoying to calibrate initially if you use the instructions. I've found online 3rd party guides are a lot better for this bit.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.3&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 15:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 02:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.4">41626.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_1" target="_self">41626.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <a href="http://www.tesco.com/direct/ion-vinyl-forever-turntable-to-computer-interface/230-5469.prd?skuId=230-5469&pageLevel=sku&sc_cmp=ppc_sh-_-sh-_-bg-_-230-5469&gclid=Cj0KEQiA96CyBRDk5qOtp5vz8LkBEiQA6wx8MLNjkde2vI5i2cUW7cLNgbxAbwnqR-gVA1FiCQbuDfYaAo6R8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds">http://www.tesco.com/direct/ion-vinyl-forever-turntable-to-computer-interface/230-5469.prd?skuId=230-5469&pageLevel=sku&sc_cmp=ppc_sh-_-sh-_-bg-_-230-5469&gclid=Cj0KEQiA96CyBRDk5qOtp5vz8LkBEiQA6wx8MLNjkde2vI5i2cUW7cLNgbxAbwnqR-gVA1FiCQbuDfYaAo6R8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.4&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 19:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 02:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.5">41626.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_1" target="_self">41626.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> If money's no object... <a href="http://www.oobject.com/category/most-extreme-turntables/">these <span class="emoticon e_happycry" title=":'-D"><span class="e__"><span class="emoticon e_happycry" title=":'-D"><span class="e__">:'-D</span></span></span></span> <br /><br /> I know the Clear Audio one was going for £14000, but I can't tell which'd be the £150000 one. </a><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.5&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">16 Nov 2015 12:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 14:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.6">41626.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_2" target="_self">41626.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I can get them online through Amazon, actually. I want a direct drive turntable rather than belt drive and an S- shaped tone arm. A long, S-shaped arm is better. <span class="emoticon e_tongue" title=":-P"><span class="e__">:-P</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.6&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">16 Nov 2015 12:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: graphitone <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 16 Nov 2015 16:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.7">41626.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_5" target="_self">41626.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Don't they have anything a bit more up-scale? <span class="emoticon e_rabbit" title=":-B"><span class="e__">:-B</span></span> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.7&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time">16 Nov 2015 12:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Nov 2015 02:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.8">41626.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_1" target="_self">41626.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The classic SL1200 is a bit of a tank, though I doubt you'll find any that haven't been worked at least a bit!<br /><br /> It does very much come down to how much you want to spend, and what your expectations are.<br /><br /> A few points on this:<br /> - do you want something with a built-in phono preamp?<br /> - if so, do you want the phono pre-amp to be "bypassable"?<br /> - would you want something with a USB DAC so that you can record from the TT onto your PC?<br /><br /> Rega are a very decent choice, with models at various price points. I've recently looked into getting a TT (haven't made any decisions yet), and I considered:<br /> - AT-LP120USB<br /> - Teac TN-300 (USB, in Cherry - oooh purdy!)<br /><br /> I also looked at the Pro-Ject options, but I was put off by reports of excessive rumble - whether that's still an issue or not, I don't know.<br /><br /> I ended up looking at the AT and the Teac because they were both complete solutions and came with reasonable styli; I wouldn't really intend to faff around a lot, spend time adjusting counterweights etc. I also thought the built-in USB DAC may be useful if I decide to digitise my dad's vinyl.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.8&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">17 Nov 2015 02:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Nov 2015 19:33"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.9">41626.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_8" target="_self">41626.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Thanks, Serg. It does not have to have a preamp, I have two receivers capable of using an old fashioned RCA input. USB DAC is fine, but I really want an Old Skool turntable, direct drive. The Audio Technica AT-LP240/USB pretty much has it all.<br /><br /><br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.9&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41626_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_41626_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">17 Nov 2015 08:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Nov 2015 12:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 33</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.10">41626.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41626.1#a41626_6" target="_self">41626.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Any particular reason why you're after direct drive and an S-shaped tone arm?<br /><br /> Just curious really. All of the really outstanding turntables at all budget points since the 60s have been belt driven and the vast majority have opted for a straight tone arm - even firms like SME who produced a few snaky ones over the years.<br /><br /> I don't imagine that at the budget point of the Technics there will be world of difference between various models in sound quality, particularly if the signal is going into a receiver rather than a dedicated amp. so is it the appearance or convenience or what?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41626.10&return_msg=41626.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41626.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41626.11" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>