ISIS Strikes in Paris - Teh Forum

<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.0&return_msg=41625.11"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.31">31–40</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41625.11">ISIS Strikes in Paris</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41625_11_40_10"> <a name="a41625_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">14 Nov 2015 15:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Nov 2015 15:31"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.11">41625.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.6">41625.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Doesn't matter, deaths just the same. Guns are necessary because outlaws have guns; our POTUS has seen fit to release 6,000 prisoners from Federal prisons, so who knows where they will end up? Crime generally repeats, particularly for the institutionalised. Our POTUS has pussy-footed with Syria; so then the terrorists come to America<br /><br /> Not all gun crimes are deliberate either, although most are.<br /><br /> What happens when ISIS comes to England in retaliation for airstrikes in northern Iraq? What do you combat them with, the back of a leather glove and refusing them afternoon tea? An ounce of prevention...</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.11&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">14 Nov 2015 15:35</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Nov 2015 15:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.12">41625.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.9">41625.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> A gun. Most people are incredibly bad shots and can't hit the broad side of a barn with one, let alone a moving target. Problem is, most people freeze with panic instead of taking action.<br /><br /> By the way, [Briton] Jihadi John was pretty handy with knife, wasn't he?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.12&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">14 Nov 2015 15:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Nov 2015 12:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.13">41625.13</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.10">41625.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <i>> I expected better</i> <p>Consider what that indicates. </p><br /><p><i>> illegal immigration</i> </p><p>What makes a person moving from one free country to another illegal? </p><br /><p><i>> and scoundrels</i> </p><p>Violence begets violence. </p><p>If you want to stop it, determine what actions combined to cause innocent children to grow into murderers.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.13&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.13"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_14"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_14"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">14 Nov 2015 17:13</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Nov 2015 12:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">14 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.14">41625.14</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.4">41625.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Just to go along with your woeful car analogy for a moment, we are moving towards driverless cars and in the not so distant future people will probably be incredulous that we drove them ourselves. "Didn't that cause a lot of deaths?" "Oh yes, millions".</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.14&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">14 Nov 2015 18:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Nov 2015 12:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.15">41625.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.1">41625.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How many of the ludicrously common mass shootings in the USA are ended by a bystander with a gun? It's roughly zero, as far as I know. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.15&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.15"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">14 Nov 2015 22:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Nov 2015 09:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.16">41625.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.11#a41625_15" target="_self">41625.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Although, to be fair, if almost everybody carried a gun I'm sure that there would be far more mass shootings ended by a bystander with a gun.<br /><br /> Take that how you see fit.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.16&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">14 Nov 2015 22:07</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Nov 2015 09:40"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.17">41625.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.11#a41625_15" target="_self">41625.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Damn good point. I suspect, though it's not laudable, most people's first reaction would be to get the shitfuck away from someone with a gun, not trying to be a hero and take whoever it is down.<br /><br /> Even with a gun, would you want to put yourself in the firing line? I appreciate there's a certain type of person willing to do that, most likley professional bodyguards and military types.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.17&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 00:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Nov 2015 12:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.18">41625.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.11#a41625_12" target="_self">41625.12</a></div> <div class="message_body"> >>A gun. Most people are incredibly bad shots and can't hit the broad side of a barn with one, let alone a moving target. Problem is, most people freeze with panic instead of taking action.<br /> <br /> And yet you advocate arming everyone so they can take a pop at the terrorists. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.18&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 09:44</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">19 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.19">41625.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> If we are going to do this, we should acknowledge that for example Canada have their citizens allowed guns and they manage not to shoot each other nearly as much as people do in the USA. So it's not only having guns that is the problem, there's more to it than that. Still, I'm not sure why people like fixrman are often so keen on other nations getting MORE guns. I live in London and. It is not rare to see someone losing their temper at some point during the day. Why would adding guns help? Meanwhile we have armed police for those situations where people are using illegal weapons and it seems to work ok most of the time. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.19&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41625_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_41625_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">15 Nov 2015 09:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: milko <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 15 Nov 2015 14:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 40</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.20">41625.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41625.11#a41625_19" target="_self">41625.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Canada has about the same amount of territory as the USA, but a tenth of the population. There are fewer gun deaths because the bullets just go through the gaps between the people. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41625.20&return_msg=41625.11" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41625.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41625.21" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>