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So I guess I won't be needing history.js. Anyhoo, Tuesday I'll find out if my htaccess works on the client's server (it does have mod rewrite enabled).</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.14&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.14"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_15"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_15"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 07:14</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 14:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">15 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.15">41579.15</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.13">41579.13</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I bet more people use Apache because somebody or something installed it for them and they are <i>still</i> using it <i>and</i> they don't know any better. That doesn't make it the best web server (for their needs).<br /> <br /> Apache was the definitely the best at one time, but that was when there was nothing else worthwhile installing.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.15&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.15"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_16"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_16"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 08:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 08:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">16 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.16">41579.16</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.14#a41579_15" target="_self">41579.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What makes nginx better apart from speed and resource handling? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.16&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.16"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_17"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_17"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 09:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 09:09"></span></span> <span class="message_count">17 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.17">41579.17</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.14#a41579_16" target="_self">41579.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's not just a webserver, its also a really clever proxy server. You can use it to proxy anything (not just http, but any kind of tcp), from a frontend to a backend service really easily.<br /> <br /> More importantly, it is asynchronous / event driven using 1 thread per CPU (core) , rather than using multiple threads/processes to handle responding to individual clients like Apache does, so it scales a lot better as well as being quicker.<br /> <br /> Its not difficult to learn either, despite the nay sayers. The configuration format is different, but easier to learn than Apache's.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.17&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.17"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_18"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_18"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 09:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 11:01"></span></span> <span class="message_count">18 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.18">41579.18</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.14#a41579_17" target="_self">41579.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Good explanation. I currently use nginx on my RPis where required and Apache on my proper server(s). But they're not doing anything interesting, it was more a case of having used WAMP previously so I went with Apache when I moved my server to Ubuntu. <br /> <br /> I only discovered how to use Proxies with Apache quite recently, really great idea in general. Passing specific subdomain requests to other servers seamlessly. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.18&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.18"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_19"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_19"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 14:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 14:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">19 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.19">41579.19</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.14#a41579_17" target="_self">41579.17</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Apache gets the job done, and it's pretty much on all our client's low-cost shared web hosts. I never recommend that clients change their hosting, unless they are having major issues or our proposed solution can't work on it, then it's usually just to switch from IIS to Linux +apache (because those are the choices).<br /><br /> Maybe in future I'll be in a position to provision a more performant solution, where that's a requirement, and I'll consider the alternatives more carefully. I did install lighttpd on a virtual server recently and it was easier to bring up, and (seemingly) speedier than apache. But it doesn't appear to be available on any shared providers, so...<br /><br /> Thing is, since apache really is so widely used then going 'off the reservation', so to speak, could create problems for anyone who eventually inherits the server admin. So there's that.<br /><br /> Other thing I'm pondering is where containerization is going to take this whole business. I took a spin at it a few months ago, and it appears to be more geared to large-scale hosting providers.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.19&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.19"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_20"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_20"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 14:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 14:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">20 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.20">41579.20</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.14#a41579_19" target="_self">41579.19</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Nginx has been available in Debian since 5.0 (I think) and Ubuntu since at least 12.04 and I'm sure the same is true of Redhat and other distros, so it's hardly going off reservation anymore. Installing and upgrading it is now no more difficult than installing Apache.<br /> <br /> As long as you have free reign to install packages I would totally encourage you try it out and see what it can offer.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.20&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.20"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_21"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_21"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 14:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 15:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">21 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.21">41579.21</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.14#a41579_20" target="_self">41579.20</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I might do that out of idle curiosity, one fine day.<br /><br /> <span class="emoticon e_moustache" title=":-{)"><span class="e__">:-{)</span></span><br /> <div class="quotetext"><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">As long as you have free reign to install packages</div> <br /> Virtualbox. Hello?<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 6 Sep 2015 14:29 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.21&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.21"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_22"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_22"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 14:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 15:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">22 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.22">41579.22</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.14#a41579_15" target="_self">41579.15</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yes, and now the wonderful flawless nginx is around EVERYONE should <em>instantly</em> ditch Apache, all their years of experience, scripts, and configuration, and jump across to nginx which can be learnt instantly, provides all the same functionality, is perfectly compatible in every way, and will make scented rainbows shoot out their arse. <p>Or perhaps you could stop acting like a twattish fanboy and accept that they each have different benefits and drawbacks, and - even if nginx was objectively better in every way - it still takes time and effort to switch such a central piece of software, and so blurting about people "still" using what is <em>by far</em> the most used web server is simply pitiful.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.22&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.22"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41579_23"></a><div class="message" id="message_41579_23"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 6 Sep 2015 16:11</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 6 Sep 2015 16:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">23 of 50</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.23">41579.23</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41579.14#a41579_22" target="_self">41579.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I didn't say nginx was flawless and I didn't say <em>everyone </em>should switch.<br /><br /> Experience can be re-learnt, scripts re-written or better yet, written to be independent of the web-server, software and as for configuration, that should be handled by Saltstack or Puppet so you can test, re-test and deploy configuration changes safely. I know fully well that switching out takes time and effort, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.<br /><br /> Also, I don't think nginx ships with the rainbow arse shooting module compiled in. Apache definitely ships with the false sense of superiority due to having more users module though <span class="emoticon e_tongue" title=":P"><span class="e__">:P</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41579.23&return_msg=41579.14" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41579.23"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41579.24" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>