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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.0&return_msg=41498.109"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.81">81–90</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.91">91–100</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.101">101–110</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.111">111–120</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.121">121–123</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41498.109">win10 excitement</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41498_109_123_10"> <a name="a41498_109"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_109"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2015 13:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">109 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109">41498.109</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think I quite like 10, it's definitely an improvement on 8/8.1, and I'm pretty sure it's a lot better than 7 too. Not overly-keen with the intrusiveness of it, but with all the tracking stuff turned off I think it should be OK. If MS push things much more in that direction I think I'd be about ready to quit windows all together, tbh. But in terms of interface and speed, it's definitely a winner for me.<br /><br /> My laptop still refuses to reliably hibernate, though (first discovered on the day it came from the courier, manufacturer refused to acknowledge it as a fault) so at least I now know that it's not a Windows issue, but a hardware/driver issue. Power management driver perhaps? Who knows!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.109&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.109"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_110"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_110"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2015 15:48</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2015 15:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">110 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.110">41498.110</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_109" target="_self">41498.109</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Got mine updated Thursday night. Haven't had much of of a play with it yet. My laptop actually hibernates (or rather resumes) better than it did before. The Intel grpahics driver did some stupid stuff when resuming in Win8 (7 worked fine). The display would go blank, come back for a bit, disappear, do that a few times and finally get to the desktop after a while.<br /><br /> Might have a play with it later (YJ) after changing the PCV hose on Sian's Mondeo. A split rubber hose that needs the inlet manifold removing to change it. Some of the bolts are impossible to get to. Grrrrr.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.110&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.110"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_111"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_111"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2015 15:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Chris (CHRISSS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2015 16:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">111 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.111">41498.111</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_110" target="_self">41498.110</a></div> <div class="message_body"> If you choose hibernate on mine it acts like it's hibernating, but when you boot up again it's a fresh boot. There's nothing in error logs etc. to say the hibernate failed. Sometimes it works, though. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.111&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.111"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_112"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_112"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2015 21:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2015 23:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">112 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.112">41498.112</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_111" target="_self">41498.111</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm sure I used to have a computer that used to do that when trying to put it into standby. Never used the hibernate mode til I've had this laptop. And power options in the BIOS related to it maybe? Had a fucking sod of a job changing the PCV hose on the Mondeo. Had to remove loads of electrical connections, clips for cables and hoses routed around it, 8 bolts holding it in place, 2 were fairly easy, 2 were awkward and the rest just couldn't be seen without holding my mobile with the camera switched on with the torch pointing between bits of car to direct myself on the screen. 2 big splits in it and the car is mostly back together now.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.112&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.112"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_113"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_113"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Chris (CHRISSS)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2015 21:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2015 23:45"></span></span> <span class="message_count">113 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.113">41498.113</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_111" target="_self">41498.111</a></div> <div class="message_body"> What does your Event Viewer show when tell it to hibernate? Mine says it is entering sleep, then returned from a low power state when it comes back.<br /><br /> Interestingly it also says:<br /> The system firmware has changed the processor's memory type range registers (MTRRs) across a sleep state transition (S5). This can result in reduced resume performance.<br /><br /> whatever that means.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.113&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.113"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_114"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_114"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2015 23:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Chris (CHRISSS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2015 05:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">114 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.114">41498.114</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_112" target="_self">41498.112</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Haven't checked event viewer lately, but there wasn't much in as far as I recall. <br /> <br /> As for bios settings, for a laptop that's supposed to be customisable, it's surprisingly locked down. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.114&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.114"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_115"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_115"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 09:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 09:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">115 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.115">41498.115</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_114" target="_self">41498.114</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I discovered that MS balanced a bowl of water on the door for home network users upgrading to 10 who don't use homegroups but naively followed the recommended 'use your MS account details' for an ID and password.<br /><br /> It may not hit that many users, but from Windows 8 onwards if you use an MS account to log on and you want to view shares on other PCs on a home network that are also at 8 or above, Windows imposes a sort of bodged domain network model. You are required to enter an ID and password to view shares, your 'domain' is the name of your PC, and it royally screws things like network drives mapped to shares.<br /><br /> I never noticed this before because I had a mixture of boxes at 7 and 8. It's a pain to work round in 8 and 8.1 but relatively easy to switch to a local user in 10 <em>if you know what the problem is and that this is the way to fix it</em>. It wasn't something I'd ever seen publicised, and judging from the other bewildered users floundering around with half-arsed fixes, I'm not alone.<br /><br /> The issue is compounded because the 'join a domain or workgroup' wizard is broken for many users but in a way that gives the impression that something other than the wizard is broken - i.e. when you check the radio button to indicate that this is mainly a home PC and not business, the wizard hangs for a bit, tells you to restart (without asking what workgroup of domain you want), sets your work group back to the default 'workgroup' and when you restart you find that it's defaulted back to 'this PC is part of a business network'.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.115&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.115"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_116"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_116"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 10:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 12:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">116 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.116">41498.116</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_115" target="_self">41498.115</a></div> <div class="message_body"> How does it work if you use a homegroup?<br /><br /> Can't say i've noticed any changes in how the network is handled from 8.1. When I did the upgrade install I'm sure my mapped drive to my Raspberry Pi showed up as normal <span class="emoticon e_plain" title=":|"><span class="e__">:|</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.116&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.116"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_117"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_117"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 13:02</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 16:52"></span></span> <span class="message_count">117 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.117">41498.117</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_116" target="_self">41498.116</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I couldn't say - I've never used a homegroup<br /><br /> As for the mapped drive thing, I assume you weren't running Windows 8 on your pi. The situation arises when a windows machine tries to see shares on another windows machine, both machines are at 8 or above and the one you're logged on to is using a Microsoft account (koswix@outlook.com etc.) as a user ID.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.117&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.117"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41498_118"></a><div class="message" id="message_41498_118"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time"> 4 Aug 2015 16:53</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 4 Aug 2015 17:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">118 of 123</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.118">41498.118</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41498.109#a41498_117" target="_self">41498.117</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ah. What if both have logged in with an Ms account. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41498.118&return_msg=41498.109" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41498.118"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41498.119" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>