Want an AV. Receiver but don't want surround sound - Teh Forum

<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.0&return_msg=41343.25"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.21">21–27</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41343.25">Want an AV. Receiver but don't want surround sound</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41343_25_27_10"> <a name="a41343_25"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_25"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time"> 9 Mar 2015 16:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Mar 2015 16:46"></span></span> <span class="message_count">25 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.25">41343.25</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.22">41343.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Is Harmon Kardon now crap? They once made good receivers and such but now I think they are just off-sourced Chinese crap.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.25&return_msg=41343.25" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.25"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_26"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_26"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)<span class="message_time"> 9 Mar 2015 16:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: fixrman <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 9 Mar 2015 17:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">26 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.26">41343.26</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.25#a41343_25" target="_self">41343.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Hmmh, it depends... they did recently make some rather good two-channel (stereo) receivers, the HK990 and HK3390 of which the former was quite remarkable, but their more recent surround AVRs are a bit "meh" - totally decent, but none of them made me think "yeah, I'll take that over the equivalent Yamaha". Mind you this is all from reading online and some very very brief hands-on, so I may well be wrong!<br /><br /> To be honest, what really puts me off Onkyo is the slew of HDMI board failures and overheating issues that they've had with their AVRs, which has kept happening for many generations. I also prefer the more natural sound of Yamaha - each manufacturer does do some degree of sound signature tuning on their devices, and the amp/processing tech that each of them choose also has some degree of impact on that. In an ideal world they should all sound the same and not "colour" the sound in any way, but we don't live in that ideal world.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.26&return_msg=41343.25" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.26"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41343_27"></a><div class="message" id="message_41343_27"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time"> 9 Mar 2015 17:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Mar 2015 22:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">27 of 27</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.27">41343.27</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41343.25#a41343_26" target="_self">41343.26</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Hmmm. Why does the Quote box not work?<br /><br /> >> In an ideal world they should all sound the same and not "colour" the sound in any way<<<br /><br /> I agree. If I want to colour the music, I can do that. I shouldn't need special effects in order for the sound to be reproduced. I have an old Pioneer AVR, a VSX5300. It was a nice unit, very early Surround Sound. So early in fact, it doesn't even have a powered centre output, so one either needs a powered centre or an amp. I decided to get a non-powered speaker and use a Rockford Fosgate single channel 50W amp to power it and it sounded pretty good. If I wanted better or more prominent dialogue, I could adjust the gain on the centre amp separately and all was well. The sub had to be [self] powered off one of the front channels because there was no sub output either.<br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41343.27&return_msg=41343.25" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41343.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>