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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.0&return_msg=41313.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.1">1–8</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=41313.1">Faster WiFi possible ?</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="41313_1_8_10"> <a name="a41313_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_41313_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: cynicoid<span class="message_time">12 Dec 2014 11:12</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 8</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.1">41313.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Having just got fibre I'm a bit disappointed in the download speed over WiFi, I'm on a 80/40 profile and was expecting something close to that but only get 28Mbps down and 15Mbps up.<br /><br /> It was suggested I try the speedtest over a wired LAN connection, which gives 76Mbps down and 30Mbps up ! Why such a big difference between the two, slightly slower I would understand but 50Mbps difference !!?<br /><br /> The WiFi results are the same regardless of which device I use, an iPad, d/top dongle and laptop wireless card, each is capable of a max 65, 54 and 100Mbps respectively yet they all only achieve 28Mbps.<br /><br /> Anything I can do to bump up the speeds to somewhere close to the max ? Already tried changing channels and disabling QOS, the routers in the same room and about 8 foot from my devices - distance doesn't seem to have an effect though. It's one of the TalkTalk superrouters a Huawei HG635.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.1&return_msg=41313.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41313.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41313_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_41313_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">12 Dec 2014 11:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: cynicoid <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Dec 2014 17:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 8</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.2">41313.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.1#a41313_1" target="_self">41313.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's a black-art that I've still not nailed after a couple of months of trying.<br /><br /> If it supports 5GHz WiFi and your devices do then you'll get better speeds and less interference using that.<br /><br /> Otherwise pick the least congested channel for 2.4 GHz, you'll need 40 MHz channel width enabled if you can.<br /><br /> WiFi Analyzer on Android and inSSIDer on Windows (version 3 (4 costs I think)) are good for seeing what channels are being used.<br /><br /> When I've had things working well I've been able to max out my 152 Mbit cable connection over WiFi.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.2&return_msg=41313.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41313.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41313_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_41313_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">12 Dec 2014 14:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: cynicoid <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Dec 2014 17:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 8</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.3">41313.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.1#a41313_1" target="_self">41313.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I did a speedtest at Uni over the wifi and only get 48Mbps each way. From a wired connection I hit per-user cap of 100Mbits each way.<br /><br /> I think Wifi is just a bit shit, tbh.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.3&return_msg=41313.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41313.3"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41313_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_41313_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: cynicoid<span class="message_time">12 Dec 2014 18:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Dec 2014 18:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 8</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.4">41313.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.1#a41313_2" target="_self">41313.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The superrouter I've been supplied is apparantly the dogs danglies.<br /><br /> It runs dual band 2.4/5 Ghz at both 20/40 Mhz all at the same time and at 802.11a/n/ac/b/g/, however it also looks like it's one of the shittest for wireless !<br /><br /> I didn't know there was a speed difference between wired and wireless, thought it was just limited by the speed of the cards, a slight difference I could live with but 50Mbps !! I've upgraded from 20meg ADSL to 80meg fibre and only doubled my wireless speed.<br /><br /> Reading online it appears part of the problem is my existing cards/dongle operate on the n and g protocol at 2.4Ghz and are limited to 54Mbps (which is the speed I thought I'd get) so upgrading to a faster card with a newer protocol should improve things but they will never reach the max speed.<br /><br /> Funny how the ISP's don't say the only way to get close to maximum advertised superfast fibre download speeds is by using a wired connection, but all supply wireless routers.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.4&return_msg=41313.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41313.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41313_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_41313_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">12 Dec 2014 18:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: cynicoid <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 13 Dec 2014 17:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 8</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.5">41313.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.1#a41313_4" target="_self">41313.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It is also a wired router....? <br /> <br /> WiFi never gives advertised speeds. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.5&return_msg=41313.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41313.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41313_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_41313_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: patch<span class="message_time">12 Dec 2014 19:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: cynicoid <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 13 Dec 2014 17:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 8</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.6">41313.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.1#a41313_4" target="_self">41313.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Speaking as a network engineer, wifi is always shonky. Cables are always the best way, even if they're messy.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.6&return_msg=41313.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41313.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41313_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_41313_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: cynicoid<span class="message_time">13 Dec 2014 17:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">7 of 8</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.7">41313.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> After a bit more research it looks like my adapters are old and don't support some of the newer tech.<br /><br /> Seems I can get a bit more speed by getting a dual band adapter that supports 802.11 n and ac, although from what I've read 'ac' can actually be slower than 'n' due to interference issues.<br /><br /> Quite surprised there's differences in speed between different 'n' class adapters, thought they all operated to the same specification so the speeds would be identical.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.7&return_msg=41313.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41313.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41313_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_41313_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">14 Dec 2014 12:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: cynicoid <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Dec 2014 21:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 8</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.8">41313.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41313.1#a41313_7" target="_self">41313.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Aren't network standards based on highest possible theoretical speeds?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41313.8&return_msg=41313.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41313.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>