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They're given scripts written by political staffers in the PM's office. People in the UK have no idea how much people in Canada (who bother to follow politics) envy Westminster compared to the shit that happens in Ottawa.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41190.58&return_msg=41190.57" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41190.58"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41190_59"></a><div class="message" id="message_41190_59"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">14 Sep 2014 12:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Jo (JELLS) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Sep 2014 12:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">59 of 189</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.59">41190.59</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.57#a41190_58" target="_self">41190.58</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_acidcry" title="T_T"><span class="e__">T_T</span></span><br /><br /><br /> I BLAME THE QUEEN!<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 14 Sep 2014 12:24 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41190.59&return_msg=41190.57" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41190.59"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41190_60"></a><div class="message" id="message_41190_60"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)<span class="message_time">14 Sep 2014 14:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Sep 2014 14:55"></span></span> <span class="message_count">60 of 189</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.60">41190.60</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.56">41190.56</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Please could you present the data as a colour-coded map?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41190.60&return_msg=41190.57" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41190.60"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41190_61"></a><div class="message" id="message_41190_61"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">14 Sep 2014 14:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Sep 2014 17:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">61 of 189</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.61">41190.61</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.57#a41190_60" target="_self">41190.60</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I still need to read both of these fully but there's some colour-coded maps here:<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.democraticaudit.com/?p=1049">http://www.democraticaudit.com/?p=1049</a><br /> <a href="http://www.democraticaudit.com/?p=1230">http://www.democraticaudit.com/?p=1230</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41190.61&return_msg=41190.57" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41190.61"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41190_62"></a><div class="message" id="message_41190_62"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)<span class="message_time">14 Sep 2014 17:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 14 Sep 2014 20:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">62 of 189</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.62">41190.62</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.57#a41190_61" target="_self">41190.61</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The first one seems to suggest that Scottish and NI constituencies are better represented by 'local' MPs than England. I would've thought they'd have a greater interest in representing their constituents.<br /><br /><em>Chart One: Proportion of MPs born within the region they represent</em><br /><img alt="" src="http://demaudituk.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/new-birth-map.jpg" /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41190.62&return_msg=41190.57" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41190.62"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><div class="message"> Message 41190.63 was deleted</div> <a name="a41190_64"></a><div class="message" id="message_41190_64"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">16 Sep 2014 21:42</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">64 of 189</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.64">41190.64</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Think the poll closes tomorrow, so if anyone hasn't voted that wants to now is the time</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41190.64&return_msg=41190.57" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41190.64"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41190_65"></a><div class="message" id="message_41190_65"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2014 02:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2014 03:42"></span></span> <span class="message_count">65 of 189</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.65">41190.65</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.24">41190.24</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext">So I had a chat with cousin who lives in Ireland today on Skype and we discussed what may be developing on this independence vote so I decided to peruse the thread to see what the general feeling might be and I came upon this:</div> <div class="quotetext"><br /><strong>Quote:</strong> </div> <div class="quote">Ok, so, as Scotland, as I say, you rely on powerful overseas allies and English weakness. Those allies are usually France and the Scandinavian countries, those are the ones that make sense. And English weakness means poaching territories off them while they're engaged in <span style="color:#B22222;">stupid</span> wars with France and/or Spain or, even better, if the War of the Roses happens (conditions have to be right for it to occur) just marching in and taking a nice big chunk of England while they're fighting with themselves.<br /> </div> <p>So are the English stupid for fighting those wars, or is it just the war that is stupid, as in nonsensical? What about France and Spain? Is stupid (nonsensical) only objectionable when paired with women, or can it be used in the same vein either way? Just curious. I recall watching Are You Being Served? years ago and Captain Peacock said to Mrs. Peacock, "I did it for you, you stupid cow!" Mrs. Peacock was not offended, nor was anyone else.<br /><br /> Anyway, cousin thought that the vote would be close but that the independence vote would not pass. We don't get much on that I am afraid, so I was looking here to see what the feeling might be, He gave me some interesting history on Scotland which I would have had no way of knowing. We wouldn't get that kind of history here except in specialised courses of study. I found it remarkable that as young as sixteen will be eligible to vote.<br /><br /> It is an interesting process I plan to follow more over the next day. I am wondering what will happen if Yes Scotland does not prevail; are the natives truly restless? Will it result in any backlash? Hopefully there will be no actions such as the irrational behaviour that followed the shooting in Ferguson, MO., but of course theirs is a political process.<br /><br /> Is there enough support for an independent Scotland? The ramifications are certainly many.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41190.65&return_msg=41190.57" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41190.65"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a41190_66"></a><div class="message" id="message_41190_66"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: fixrman<span class="message_time">17 Sep 2014 02:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 17 Sep 2014 03:42"></span></span> <span class="message_count">66 of 189</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.66">41190.66</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=41190.51">41190.51</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <strong>Quote:</strong> <div class="quote">Scotland is a distinct cultural an political entity which votes distinctly differently from England and Wales, as that distinct entity, never gets the government it votes for nor the attention or concern it deserves. Similar arguments can be made for the rest of the UK but I really don't get why the prospect of Scotland choosing for itself to try to make its own lot better bothers you so much.</div> You'd have been handy over here in say, 1765.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=41190.66&return_msg=41190.57" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="41190.66"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="41190.67" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>