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From: ANT_THOMAS
20 Jan 2014 22:47
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
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I haven't even looked at any pre-built packages but I guess there's no harm in looking and trying a couple.
My plan was to totally make my own and a web interface to go with it. It may sound a bit silly but to a point I've already done quite a bit. I've got ways to turn on remote sockets over the Internet from my phone via a web page, easily check temperatures, activate motion detection etc.
The only thing I think might be more difficult is to make the software to possibly control central heating. To be able to set timers in a sensible fashion without using cronjobs etc.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
20 Jan 2014 22:51
To: ANT_THOMAS
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What are your concerns with relays? I have a bunch that I was intending to use for lighting, have you had trouble with them?
Well then there you go! Making your own might be the least complicated way of doing it!
From: ANT_THOMAS
20 Jan 2014 23:20
To: ANT_THOMAS
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I haven't had any issues with them but I'm yet to try them with any mains electricity. They're bloody easy to use and very useful though.
I do have concerns around safety, I could be being over cautious but I don't want to fudge something when it comes to mains. So, a list why I don't think relays are ideal for me.
1) Quality of relay - what makes a good relay? How much do properly decent ones cost with all the correct levels of insulation across circuits? Would I trust the ones I've bought from China? Probably not. (would I even be insured if I fit them myself and they caused a fire?)
2) Each relay will need cables running to whatever is controlling it.
3) I want a physical switch as well as being able to remotely control.
4) Switching states. Which carries on from 3... I want to be able to know whether something is on or off, or be able to calculate/work it out. If you use a relay and a physical switch I'm guessing it would need to be done in a similar fashion to having two switches for one light (upstairs/downstairs on stairs etc) which if I've worked the wiring out right you'd very quickly not know whether the relay being on/off would mean the light is on or off because of the use of the physical switch. I think this would make it impossible to turn a light on/off unless you already knew whether it was on or off. That may not seem like an issue but for example if I was out of the house and wanted to turn a light off, I want to be able to issue an "off" command. There could be a chance that the light is already off and I didn't know, with a relay I'd end up turning the light back on.
My current answer to this is LightwaveRF switches. So to answer the above
1) High quality products, much safer, tested etc. More expensive than relays though.
2) Simple to fit, just replaces your normal wall switch. Controlled wirelessly.
3) It is a physical switch that can be remotely controlled.
4) It can be issued with an "on" or an "off" command. So if you want to try and turn something off that is already off it stays off.
From: ANT_THOMAS
20 Jan 2014 23:26
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
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That was obviously to you!
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
20 Jan 2014 23:30
To: ANT_THOMAS
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Interesting. Yeah I'm not crazy about having to wire everything up. I am going to look into these lightwave things in a bit, it might make more sense for me to use them.
Thanks!
From: ANT_THOMAS
20 Jan 2014 23:41
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
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There's a number of other RF options out there.
Some that have a bit of a dummy switch which is battery powered and can go anywhere which acts as a remote and the RF received goes above the light fitting in the ceiling. There's even some lightbulbs out there that have it built in.
I wanted to easiest way to fit a remote controlled light and that was two screws and 2 or 3 wires with the LightwaveRF switches.
The switch I ordered should arrive in the next couple of days and I can have a play. Hopefully it does what I want. Or more so, I hope I can get the Arduino talking to it properly!
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
20 Jan 2014 23:43
To: ANT_THOMAS
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I have a set of the Phillips Hue bulbs. Most of the Open Source Automation programs that I've messed with can control them. But the downside is they are crazy expensive. I don't think I'll be getting any more but who knows.
From: ANT_THOMAS
20 Jan 2014 23:46
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
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The switch I've bought is £25 (~$40) which I do feel is a bit expensive. Equivalents are probably cheaper in the US.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
20 Jan 2014 23:47
To: ANT_THOMAS
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I've seen a bunch for ~$40, that seems to be the norm for them. I think that's a little steep but it's the going rate!
From: koswix
26 Jan 2014 00:03
To: ANT_THOMAS
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Can't find the right thread, but this made me think of your temperature logging stuff. Also seems very interesting and has many very cool possibilities if all SD cards can be hacked like this..
http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3554