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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.0&return_msg=40602.4"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.21">21–25</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=40602.4">Getting into it</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="40602_4_25_10"> <a name="a40602_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Monsoir (PILOTDAN)<span class="message_time">31 Jul 2013 07:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 Jul 2013 15:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.4">40602.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.2">40602.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Agree about Python, I still don't really understand. I do get on well with C# nowadays, though.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.4&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">31 Jul 2013 14:30</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 31 Jul 2013 15:34"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.5">40602.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.1">40602.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> My ADD is bad today, I didn't read your whole post but I think/hope I got the general idea. I recently decided that I and Tanner would learn how to program for XBox and Windows Phone. I haven't started anything yet, but I do have all of the stuff needed to do it. You are welcome to any of it (no idea if it's stuff normal people would have to purchase or not) I got from my MSDN account mostly. I also have a pretty big shit pile of ebooks/pdf's to get started. If you are interested let me know and I can share it with you.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.5&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2013 00:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2013 00:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.6">40602.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.2">40602.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That sounds absolutely ideal, cheers! I've heard a lot of good things about Lua.<br /><br /> Is the <a href="https://www.love2d.org/wiki/Main_Page">wiki</a>/<a href="https://www.love2d.org/wiki/Getting_Started">tutorials</a> a decent way to learn the language or is there somewhere else that will give me a better grasp of fundamentals? I hate going through tutorials that will at some point just dump a block of code and say "copy and paste this" without explaining what any of it does.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.6&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2013 00:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2013 01:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.7">40602.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.4#a40602_6" target="_self">40602.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah, stick to the wiki and the tutorials linked therein.<br /><br /> Until you're done with them, obviously, then look elsewhere <span class="emoticon e_pipe" title=":Y"><span class="e__">:Y</span></span><br /><br /> Also Love comes with a bunch of examples built in which is nice. You can have a look at their code and pull them apart and stuff.<br /><br /><br /><br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.7&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2013 00:31</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2013 07:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.8">40602.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.4#a40602_4" target="_self">40602.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Yeah I know a lot of people who swear by C#. I think if you can get your head round class based inheritance (which I was never able to do, prototype based makes <em>so</em> much more sense in my head) then it's pretty much perfect. Does all the tedious stuff for you and lets you get on with coding. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.8&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2013 12:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2013 15:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.9">40602.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.4#a40602_8" target="_self">40602.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"> <b>quote:</b> <a href="messages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.8">Lucy (X3N0PH0N)</a></div> <div class="quote"> Prototype based makes <em>so</em> much more sense in my head. </div> <p> Like, seriously? Prototype-based programming isn't even real inheritance<em> </controversial></em></p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.9&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2013 15:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2013 16:02"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.10">40602.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.4#a40602_9" target="_self">40602.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Aye. Also I find it much easier to think in terms of verbs doing things to nouns (i.e. functions acting on data structures (from the outside)) than in terms of nouns containing methods to do things to themselves/other things.<br /><br /> And I like weakly typed languages.<br /><br /> I'm essentially just a terrible coder <span class="emoticon e_pipe" title=":Y"><span class="e__">:Y</span></span><br /><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 1 Aug 2013 15:38 by X3N0PH0N</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.10&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2013 18:14</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2013 18:20"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.11">40602.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.4#a40602_10" target="_self">40602.10</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Realising that dynamic prototyped-based languages are vastly superior to strict static class-based languages doesn't make you a terrible coder.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.11&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_12"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_12"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2013 18:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2013 18:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">12 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.12">40602.12</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40602.4#a40602_11" target="_self">40602.11</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Everyone I know who's good at coding tells me that it does <span class="emoticon e_csad" title=":C"><span class="e__">:C</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40602.12&return_msg=40602.4" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40602.12"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40602_13"></a><div class="message" id="message_40602_13"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 1 Aug 2013 18:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 1 Aug 2013 18:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">13 of 25</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a 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