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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.0&return_msg=40565.45"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.1">1–10</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.41">41–50</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.51">51–52</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=40565.45">Linux-proxy-me-do</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="40565_45_52_10"> <a name="a40565_45"></a><div class="message" id="message_40565_45"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 2 Aug 2013 18:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2013 18:23"></span></span> <span class="message_count">45 of 52</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.45">40565.45</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.44">40565.44</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Why generous? Opera were the driving force behind a lot of the current HTML improvements, so it makes sense that they'd be a useful partner in giving Webkit an overhaul.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.45&return_msg=40565.45" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40565.45"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40565_46"></a><div class="message" id="message_40565_46"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time"> 2 Aug 2013 18:19</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2013 18:19"></span></span> <span class="message_count">46 of 52</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.46">40565.46</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.43">40565.43</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Slight difference between being able to download files and having a torrent client built into a browser that associates itself by default with .torrent files (even if you already had a torrent client) without telling you.<br /><br /> I wouldn't mind so much if they said "Hey, did you know Opera can also download torrents? Would you like us to be the default torrent client on your PC?" and gave me the option to say no. But they don't.<br /><br /> To make matters worse, they become the default client for all user accounts and when you remove Opera it doesn't restore the associations you had previously, meaning you have to dick about in the Windows Registry to get it all removed.<br /><br /> It's obvious what they're doing is banking on the less technically adept installing it and then becoming stuck with Opera because they don't know how to undo the changes it makes to the system.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 2 Aug 2013 18:21 by MATT</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.46&return_msg=40565.45" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40565.46"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40565_47"></a><div class="message" id="message_40565_47"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 2 Aug 2013 18:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2013 18:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">47 of 52</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.47">40565.47</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.45#a40565_45" target="_self">40565.45</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Maybe. But it's going to be a long time before many of those improvements are incorporated into Webcore, I would imagine.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.47&return_msg=40565.45" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40565.47"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40565_48"></a><div class="message" id="message_40565_48"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 2 Aug 2013 18:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2013 18:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">48 of 52</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.48">40565.48</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.45#a40565_46" target="_self">40565.46</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think it did ask that for me, but it's been so long since I installed it that I can't remember for sure. <p>I do hate how ... sneaky they can be though - on Opera Mobile every so often I'll find a bunch of shit added to my speed dial. <span class="emoticon e_angry" title=":@"><span class="e__">:@</span></span> </p><p>Which also reminds me of Adblock Plus recently - it keeps updating, flashing up a stupid tab, and re-enabling the "Google are forcing us to allow their ads" option, with no way to stop it. <span class="emoticon e_angry" title=":@"><span class="e__">:@</span></span></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.48&return_msg=40565.45" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40565.48"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40565_49"></a><div class="message" id="message_40565_49"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 2 Aug 2013 18:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2013 18:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">49 of 52</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.49">40565.49</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.45#a40565_47" target="_self">40565.47</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Probably. I think the first step is ripping out Apple shit and re-architecturing it to run better?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.49&return_msg=40565.45" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40565.49"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40565_50"></a><div class="message" id="message_40565_50"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 2 Aug 2013 18:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2013 18:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">50 of 52</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.50">40565.50</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.45#a40565_49" target="_self">40565.49</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Aye that seems to be the main focus. Having just read up on it a bit, it all seems rather sensible.<br /><br /> I actually switched back to chromium the other day. It's a bit annoying because generally speaking I prefer FF. I prefer its interface (once I've rearranged it to my satisfaction (I also prefer that <em>I can do that</em>)). And I prefer the philosophy and position of the Mozilla foundation to that of Google.<br /><br /> And yet... Chromium is just (or feels at least) significantly faster again. And just runs better on Linux too (where I spend 99% of my time these days).<br /><br /> It just feels like a more modern approach to making a broswer, really. Taking on board all the lessons learned over the past decade or two. I'm not really sure how FF can respond.<br /><br /><br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.50&return_msg=40565.45" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40565.50"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40565_51"></a><div class="message" id="message_40565_51"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time"> 2 Aug 2013 18:56</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2013 19:07"></span></span> <span class="message_count">51 of 52</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.51">40565.51</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.45#a40565_50" target="_self">40565.50</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I still use both in roughly equal measure. <p>Chrome/ium's UI is shit, but less contrived than what Firefox does. </p><p>It's faster to startup, and a bit lighter weight - though a huge chunk of that is faked, which makes it a pain when things are actually running slowly. And having task manager spammed with processes is a pain. </p><p>Also is/was less effort to configure multiple instances - even though they're not really separate instances and interfere with each other except in the places you actually want them to. </p><p>For everything else I currently can think of, Chromium is equally or more shit compared to Firefox, and if I didn't open and close assorted browser sessions so often I'd probably ditch it. <span class="emoticon e_unsure" title=":/"><span class="e__">:/</span></span> </p><p>The right way for Mozilla to respond ... well there's a thing Linus said about Git - any time he was unsure how to implement something, he'd look at SVN and do the opposite. Mozilla need to do that with Firefox, instead of aiming to be a poor imitation of Chrome.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.51&return_msg=40565.45" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40565.51"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40565_52"></a><div class="message" id="message_40565_52"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time"> 2 Aug 2013 19:08</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 2 Aug 2013 19:12"></span></span> <span class="message_count">52 of 52</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.52">40565.52</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40565.45#a40565_51" target="_self">40565.51</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Aye, your last paragraph makes a lot of sense <span class="emoticon e_pipe" title=":Y"><span class="e__">:Y</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40565.52&return_msg=40565.45" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40565.52"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>