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We are printing house foundations and a bunch of other shit already. NASA is going to print food. I'd say 5 years max and they will have a pretty good printed gun.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.40&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.40"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_41"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_41"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:12</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 17:17"></span></span> <span class="message_count">41 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.41">40496.41</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.37">40496.37</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I love that stuff <span class="emoticon e_plain" title=":|"><span class="e__">:|</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.41&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.41"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_42"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_42"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 17:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">42 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.42">40496.42</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.39">40496.39</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Taking this carrying around weapons thing to extremes. Say you had a barbecue and I was invited (as I'd better fucking be) and at the barbecue I carried around... a glaive, would that be ok? Or an RPG launcher? Or a hand grenade? I mean at what point does it become unacceptable to you?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.42&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.42"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_43"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_43"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 17:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">43 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.43">40496.43</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.40#a40496_42" target="_self">40496.42</a></div> <div class="message_body"> A glaive might be cool! It depends how big it is. If you had a knife like Rambo I wouldn't think much about it, but if you carried a sword around I'd think you were a little fucked in the head.<br /><br /> The other things I wouldn't think were acceptable. The items you listed are only used for military purposes, although I think some things like that are legal to own. I know you can own a tank as long as it can't fire. I have a friend who has a pretty good arsenal of mortar rounds too. Although I don't think you're allowed to have them.<br /></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.43&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.43"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_44"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_44"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 17:26"></span></span> <span class="message_count">44 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.44">40496.44</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.40#a40496_43" target="_self">40496.43</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"> <b>quote:</b></div> <div class="quote"> The items you listed are only used for military purposes</div> <p> <br /> So are guns you bunch of crazy fucking dicks.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.44&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.44"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_45"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_45"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 18:31"></span></span> <span class="message_count">45 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.45">40496.45</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.40#a40496_44" target="_self">40496.44</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Not here they aren't. We've been through this, and have come to the conclusion that it's a cultural thing right? If you grow up using and around guns your whole life you're used to them. I guess you /could/ be correct in a way. The reason we have the second amendment is to be able to protect ourselves from the government and are able to form a militia, so yeah you're right. Every American is a member of the military to a point I guess.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.45&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.45"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_46"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_46"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 17:30"></span></span> <span class="message_count">46 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.46">40496.46</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.40#a40496_40" target="_self">40496.40</a></div> <div class="message_body"> House foundations is really nothing more than pouring concrete with a robotic arm - not going to help you make a gun.<br /><br /> Printing precision parts is a complete bitch - the plastics warp and change shape significantly over any distance (hence the incredibly short barrel on the Liberator), and the plastic really isn't strong enough for the job (notice how the amazing test firing was only a single shot?). ABS is far more elastic than steel, so it's never going to be possible to get a proper seal around the slug with ABS. Also the seal around the chamber isn't going to be very good with ABS either. I've no idea what the muzzle velocity is, but I bet it's not great. Also there's no rifling, as the ABS can't cut into the bullet, so with a tiny barrel and no rifling you're going to struggle to hit anything you're pointing at. I'd imagine the most likely outcome of firing a Liberator being pretty similar to holding a bullet in a vice and hitting it with a hammer.<br /><br /> As for printed metals, they're currently done by using powdered metals and 'fusing' the particles together with a laser. The result is pretty brittle and the machines are ridiculously expensive, unlike the ABS printers you can get/build for a few hundred dollars.<br /><br /><br /> If you *really* wanted to manufacture a gun at home then all you need is a half decent workshop, a mill and a lathe. Add in a CNC lathe, CNC router, CNC mill and you could automate the process and make something half decent in a week or so. <br /><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 23 May 2013 17:32 by KOSWIX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.46&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.46"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_47"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_47"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 17:47"></span></span> <span class="message_count">47 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.47">40496.47</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.40#a40496_46" target="_self">40496.46</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Good points and true. But at the speed technology is moving I can't imagine not being able to print most things within 10 years or so. And really, you don't need more than a couple shots to do what you intend to do, or if you do you print a bag full 'o guns and go Matrix style.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.47&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.47"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_48"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_48"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:46</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 18:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">48 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.48">40496.48</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.24">40496.24</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext"> <b>quote:</b></div> <div class="quote"> <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">One of the two people involved in the incident apparently had a gun.</span></div> <p> Albeit not a very good one, it blew his own finger off didn't it? Which just goes to show, gun control might be working quite well if the illegal ones can be so shit they're more dangerous to the shooter.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.48&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.48"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a40496_49"></a><div class="message" id="message_40496_49"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: milko<span class="message_time">23 May 2013 17:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 23 May 2013 17:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">49 of 104</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.49">40496.49</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=40496.40#a40496_43" target="_self">40496.43</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Maybe he wants to use the big sword to chop up bbq meat! It is a man's free choice to do that and you can take my burger-choppin' spadroon from my cold dead hands <span class="emoticon e_smile" title=":)"><span class="e__">:)</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=40496.49&return_msg=40496.40" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="40496.49"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="40496.50" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>