Hyper-V vs. VMWare - Teh Forum

<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39727.0&return_msg=39727.38"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.31">31–40</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.41">41–43</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=39727.38">Hyper-V vs. VMWare</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="39727_38_43_10"> <a name="a39727_38"></a><div class="message" id="message_39727_38"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Monsoir (PILOTDAN)<span class="message_time">22 Oct 2012 17:54</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Oct 2012 18:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">38 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.38">39727.38</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.37">39727.37</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p> I've installed it on my dev box but that's as far as I've got <span class="emoticon e_embarrassed" title=":$"><span class="e__">:$</span></span></p> <p> (As an aside, I have no doubt VMWare will still be best in class. Citrix seem to have all but lost interest in catching up, too. Essentials Plus should be plenty for most people and you can get 3 hosts, 2 CPU's each, with 3 years of support for £6800 according to VMWare.com. You can probably get it cheaper through a reseller.)</p> <p> Though expensive/cheap is all very relative.</p> <p> Actually, weren't you working in education? They offer some very good discounts.</p> <p> Also if your HyperV servers are just standalone, have you considered the free version of ESXi? I wouldn't ever recommend it normally, but it may do the trick for you.</p> <div class="edit_text">EDITED: 22 Oct 2012 17:56 by PILOTDAN</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39727.38&return_msg=39727.38" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39727.38"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39727_39"></a><div class="message" id="message_39727_39"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">22 Oct 2012 19:59</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Oct 2012 20:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">39 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.39">39727.39</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.38#a39727_38" target="_self">39727.38</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p> Working for an offshore oil services company in Aberdeen now, quite an upgrade from the simple 5-server setup I had before! The kit that they have is mainly stuff that they were landed with following a recent sale of one of their divisions (the division which managed the IT). At the moment, there's a large handful of decent standalone servers, plus 3 virtuals with 24GB of RAM - each running its own standalone copy of HyperV.</p> <p> We're wanting a fourth host, but are also wanting to improve the efficiency of things. Does the free version of ESXi support features such as variable memory and growable images? VMWare's site isn't obvious about this.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39727.39&return_msg=39727.38" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39727.39"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39727_40"></a><div class="message" id="message_39727_40"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Monsoir (PILOTDAN)<span class="message_time">22 Oct 2012 20:36</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Oct 2012 20:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">40 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.40">39727.40</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.38#a39727_39" target="_self">39727.39</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p> Do you mean like HyperV's dynamic memory? No, it doesn't do that and I think you need one of the higher editions to support hot add memory (This off the top of my head). That said, VMWares memory management is <i>extremely</i> good and while I don't like it, they do officially support and recommend memory overcommitment so that may be able to do what you need. You can thin provision VDisks in ESXi, though.</p> <p> (NB: Some / all of this may have changed in the new VSphere 5.1, I'm yet to look properly)</p> <p> By the way, you can run up ESXi in VMWare Workstation fairly easily (Free trial available). Then you just need the free VSphere Client installed - connect to your new virtual ESXi box and you'll see all the features. The ESXi install is ridiculously simple.</p> <p> It IS very cut down compared to full on vSphere, but most features require your hosts to be in a VMWare cluster and ideally have shared storage etc.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39727.40&return_msg=39727.38" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39727.40"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39727_41"></a><div class="message" id="message_39727_41"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)<span class="message_time">22 Oct 2012 20:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 22 Oct 2012 20:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">41 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.41">39727.41</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.38#a39727_39" target="_self">39727.39</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p> I am installing 2012 Hyper-V tomorrow on a test rig (medium spec's new server), I shall report back once I have had a few days play. I have only been using Hyper-V for three month and I really miss Vsphere, its just doesn't cut the mustard IMO.</p> <p> </p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39727.41&return_msg=39727.38" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39727.41"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39727_42"></a><div class="message" id="message_39727_42"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">23 Oct 2012 19:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Oct 2012 16:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">42 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.42">39727.42</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.37">39727.37</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I'm getting ready to test the new hyper-v too. I was hoping to get to it today but it's not going to happen. </p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39727.42&return_msg=39727.38" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39727.42"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39727_43"></a><div class="message" id="message_39727_43"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)<span class="message_time">24 Oct 2012 14:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 24 Oct 2012 14:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">43 of 43</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.43">39727.43</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39727.38#a39727_42" target="_self">39727.42</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Just installing it now. it will only be a couple of days alive as the machine has to go into production next week <span class="emoticon e_sad" title=":("><span class="e__">:(</span></span></p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39727.43&return_msg=39727.38" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39727.43"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>