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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.0&return_msg=39687.2"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.11">11–20</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.51">51–53</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=39687.2">Making Teh Podcast Better</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="39687_2_53_10"> <a name="a39687_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 07:25</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dr Nick (FOZZA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 09:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2">39687.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.1">39687.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>As far as editing in Audacity goes, do you need the countdown, or is it not quite easy to move the (unedited) tracks around until they line up just based on the normal conversation? I dunno. Might save, ooh, ten seconds in the editing process.</p> <p> </p> <p>As far as editing goes, I'd aim to get it down to about an hour long. Cut out some of the meandering, summarise (no need to discuss that you're all in a cultural vaccuum and don't get to the cinema - just mention it and move onto the reviews, etc). And definitely get better music. Oscar - get on with it! And the logo looks like the kind of thing that got painted on the noses of German aircraft in WW2.</p> <p> </p> <p>For the actually getting together to record it, a regularly updated thread where the next session date and rough agenda is posted would allow the people who are going to be on it to figure out what to discuss in advance.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.2&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Monsoir (PILOTDAN)<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 07:43</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dr Nick (FOZZA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 09:24"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.3">39687.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.1">39687.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I think you're definitely on the right lines by recording locally for the reasons you mention. By counting down, you're basically creating an 'audio clacker' in a similar vein to what they do on films (Y'know, the black and white "Take One" thing) to sync audio and video.</p> <p> </p> <p>I don't think there is going to be any way to avoid this process, unless there is some kind of specific Podcasting software (That'd be cool, actually) that can handle it in software.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.3&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 13:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 13:15"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.4">39687.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2#a39687_2" target="_self">39687.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I was going to offer to do some music (I even have a <a href="http://soundcloud.com/omanthorp/sets">portfolio</a>!) but I have no idea what kind of thing would be appropriate.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 10 Jul 2012 13:33 by OZGUR</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.4&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 13:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 13:33"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.5">39687.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2#a39687_4" target="_self">39687.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I'm thinking like 'none'.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.5&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Oscarvarium (OZGUR)<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 13:39</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 13:48"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.6">39687.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2#a39687_5" target="_self">39687.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well having nothing at all separating two sections is pretty awkward. It feels jarring and incoherent to cut from "okay, that was that section" straight to "now for this section". Maybe the space could be filled with a recording of the clicking sound your keyboard makes as you type angrily about how awful music is?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.6&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 13:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 14:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.7">39687.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2#a39687_6" target="_self">39687.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> (or "that one Aphex Twin track", as the rest of us know it)</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.7&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 13:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 14:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.8">39687.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2#a39687_6" target="_self">39687.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Jingles are arguably necessary on radio since you'll be listening to one programme after another. It's appropriate, then, to provide a little audio cue, a subtle one, just enough to break through any distraction and let you know your favourite programme has started.<br /> <br /> If I put a podcast on I know it's on because I put it on. Any jingle is, at <i>very fucking best</i> superfluous. And more likely annoying, grating, amateurish and embarrassing. Not just its form but the mere fact of its existence.<br /> <br /> Overproducing this, aping the forms of professional media with neither the context necessary to give that meaning nor the skill to pull it off will result in an embarrassing mess.<br /> <br /> I'm not sure the podcast needs heavily delineated sections, let alone more fucking jingles demarcating them. "Right then, let's talk about films" is more than adequate and will sound roughly infinity times less shit.<br /> <br /> If you want this to be entertaining in the way that watching people who can't sing but think they can sing audition on x-factor is entertaining then go for it.<br /> <br /> If you want it to actually be any good then worry about content. Try actually having a discussion rather than just listing shit. You can worry about production when you have something to produce.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.8&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 14:00</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 14:00"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.9">39687.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2#a39687_8" target="_self">39687.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Not had much sleep?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.9&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 14:01</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ANT_THOMAS <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 14:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.10">39687.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2#a39687_9" target="_self">39687.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Ha. Not had enough tea.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.10&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39687_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_39687_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">10 Jul 2012 14:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Oscarvarium (OZGUR) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 10 Jul 2012 14:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 53</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.11">39687.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39687.2#a39687_6" target="_self">39687.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>How about just fading the track out as you get off topic, then fading back in once you're all onto the next one?</p> <p> </p> <p>That way you cut out any unnecessary stuff and leaves a distinct audio cue for the next section. </p> <p> </p> <p>Plus Xen'll be happy.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 10 Jul 2012 14:06 by GRAPHITONE</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39687.11&return_msg=39687.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39687.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="39687.12" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>