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href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.11">11–20</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.121">121–128</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=39653.2">Employment issues ask-me-do</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="39653_2_128_10"> <a name="a39653_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: johngti_mk-ii<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 16:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 16:28"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.2">39653.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.1">39653.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Can I start a case for constructive dismissal even though I have a new job to go to?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.2&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 16:29</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: johngti_mk-ii <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 18:49"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.3">39653.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.2#a39653_2" target="_self">39653.2</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>You can, the new job has no bearing on the treatment by your current employer.</p> <p> </p> <p>However it's almost impossible to win a constructive dismissal case if you work out a notice period - you basically have to just quit and refuse to go back in to prove that the conditions were bad enough to be constructive dismissal.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.3&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 16:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 16:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.4">39653.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.1">39653.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Can I stay in bed and say fuck work if I'm really, really tired?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.4&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 16:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 29 Jun 2012 01:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.5">39653.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.2#a39653_4" target="_self">39653.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Yes.</p> <p> </p> <p>You may get sacked, though.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.5&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Monsoir (PILOTDAN)<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 17:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 17:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.6">39653.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.2#a39653_5" target="_self">39653.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Should I bang my boss?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.6&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 17:23</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 17:36"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.7">39653.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.2#a39653_3" target="_self">39653.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">the new job has no bearing on the treatment by your current employer</div> although it may be taken into account if you win your case and the tribunal comes to assess an award, because the potential loss of earnings will be reduced.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.7&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 17:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Monsoir (PILOTDAN) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 17:54"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.8">39653.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.2#a39653_6" target="_self">39653.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Only if you padlock her gates first.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.8&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 17:58</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 18:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.9">39653.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.2#a39653_7" target="_self">39653.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>That applies only to a loss of earnings award.</p> <p> </p> <p>Any compensation award on other grounds would be unaffected, so if John argued any form of discrimination (for instance) he would receive an amount of compensation for that which is separate to the calculation for loss of earnings (discrimination claims have no upper limit. yay discrimination!)</p> <p> </p> <p>It used to be the case that the reason for leaving had to be entirely because of the constructive dismissal, but the Court of Appeal ruled in Nottinghamshire County Council v Meikle that the constructive dismissal only had to form some part of the reason for leaving - hence why John can jump ship to another employer and still claim constructive dismissal.</p> <p> </p> <p>That's not to say he'd win, of course. Constructive Dismissal is a right bitch to prove.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.9&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: johngti_mk-ii<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 18:51</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 18:53"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.10">39653.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.2#a39653_9" target="_self">39653.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I ask the best questions!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.10&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a39653_11"></a><div class="message" id="message_39653_11"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">28 Jun 2012 19:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 Jun 2012 19:49"></span></span> <span class="message_count">11 of 128</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.11">39653.11</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=39653.1">39653.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Simple one: does an employee have to work a notice period if they want to quit? If so, what are the penalties/outcomes of not doing so?</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=39653.11&return_msg=39653.2" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="39653.11"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="39653.12" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>