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Teh Mine
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
6 Aug 2012 01:29
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
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If I were, that'd be fine.
I'm bitter because a) none of the enemies are a particularly potent threat and after you have armour, weapons and torches (i.e. 30 minutes into a game if you know what you're doing) they become no threat whatsoever and b) the combat is so painfully fucking clunky.
If there was more variety in the toughness of the enemies - if there were sort of boss monsters you had to kinda team up to take down (employing some actual tactics and shit) then that would be fine.
Or if the combat felt fun and fluid and visceral and tactile and responsive then that would be fun too (even if the enemies remained easy, it'd be fun to just hack your way through them out in the wilds).
The problem is that the combat is neither challenging nor (in and of itself) enjoyable. It's not really a pressure (after those first 30 mins or so), it's just a constant fucking annoyance. There's no sense of threat to the enemies, they do not feel like a challenge to overcome, they just serve to irritate.
The building side is very well realised and the combat doesn't come anywhere near matching it and feels entirely out of place.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
6 Aug 2012 01:40
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
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What it was was people like you making a game to build shit and then asking your friends if they'd like to help. And then our friends (Peter) add a bunch of stupid shit in.
EDITED: 6 Aug 2012 01:41 by SHIELDSIT
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
6 Aug 2012 01:43
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
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:D
Aye.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
6 Aug 2012 02:03
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
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You're playing it wrong.
Just because you
can
shoot straight down into a cave and come up with a hoard of iron and diamonds before the second night doesn't mean you
should
do that.
If mobs aren't a big enough threat then don't wear armour, and don't use swords or bows.
If you want tactics and teamwork then get one of the mods for that and/or do PvP.
Not that I disagree that there shouldn't be tougher mobs, and dungeons with a single spawner are far too easy, but on the whole the game is still way better than Morrowind AND has better music too.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
6 Aug 2012 02:05
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
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I knew you'd say that. And it's /ridiculous/.
The game is good so long as you... don't play it?
I want to go and get the best materials. I want to then make the best weapons and armour. I want a challenge after I do so.
I don't want to use mods.
You're defending bad design.
I'm going to pretend you didn't say that about Morrowind otherwise I'm honour-bound to literally execute you. Legally of course, I have a writ.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
6 Aug 2012 02:16
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
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I'm not defending bad design, it's just incomplete is all, because Notch/Jeb/etc has to waste so much time adding different coloured wood for
people like you
instead of adding trolls and yetis and snakes and eagles and tigers and bears and wraiths and sharks and WTF did Firefox just crash for when it wasn't even doing anything!?
:@
Anyway, I need to sleep.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
6 Aug 2012 02:25
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
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They don't need more (though that would be good too). They need to make combat not fucking dreadful. Badly designed, motherfucker.
<executes pb>
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
6 Aug 2012 02:40
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
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-bash: pb: command not found
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
6 Aug 2012 03:01
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
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:'S
~bash: sudo apt-get install pb
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT)
6 Aug 2012 03:06
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N)
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~Pi: Insufficient memory to run pb