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There are actual physical versions of the 'wall'-style:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Wordclock-Grew-Up/">http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Wordclock-Grew-Up/</a></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2462&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2462"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2463"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2463"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: graphitone<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 08:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 11:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2463 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2463">38140.2463</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2461">38140.2461</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p><span class="emoticon e_bigtear" title=":')"><span class="e__">:')</span></span> </p> <p> </p> <p>Where is your house? I've yet to check this out!</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2463&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2463"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2464"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2464"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mikee<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 10:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">2464 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2464">38140.2464</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Who's anonymously moaning at me via the web interface about where I'm building?</p> <p> </p> <p>My building is not getting in the way of anyone elses buildings. I've built far enough away from the church for even the most elaborate and large garden.</p> <p> </p> <p>Sure, I could build on the other side of the map, but really - what's the point in that?</p> <p> </p> <p>Or have I just misunderstood and someone has claimed the entire central region of the map and nobody is allowed to build within a 20 minute walk?</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2464&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2464"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2465"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2465"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 10:06</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Mikee <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 10:08"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2465 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2465">38140.2465</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2436">38140.2436</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I don't want to be a dick about this (well, any more than I actually <i>am</i> a dick) but.. I've asked you several times not to build shit around the citadel. I realise I don't like... own the land and everyone's free to build wherever they like. But I chose that island/peninsula - way away from spawn - to give me room to build out into. And, as I say, it's not like there's not plenty of open space to go and build in.<br /> <br /> It's not like there's any rules or anything but if someone's started building in what is clearly a quite distinct and remote area then it probably means they either want it remote or have plans for the surroundings. It's just about courtesy for me. I'd at least <i>ask</i> if I wanted to build something in an obviously 'claimed' area.<br /> <br /> Can you please just choose a spot on the map as your own and build there? There's no lack of open space. Or if you <i>want</i> your stuff to be in a kinda theme park area where it would actually fit in and where everyone's building next to each other then choose one of the areas where it's like that, where that's the point.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2465&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2465"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2466"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2466"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mikee<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 10:18</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 10:21"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2466 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2466">38140.2466</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2462#a38140_2465" target="_self">38140.2465</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I chose an area that seemed to be near where everyone seemed to be building - but with enough distance around me not to interfere with anyone else's stuff. I put it in the large open space between the large buildings and Jons stuff to the west.</p> <p> </p> <p>I hadn't realised that you had claimed this entire area, and I hadn't realised that all the buildings around here were yours. This seemed to be the place of the most activity.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2466&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2466"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2467"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2467"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 10:24</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Mikee <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 10:25"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2467 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2467">38140.2467</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2462#a38140_2466" target="_self">38140.2466</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That would make sense if... I hadn't told you about 5 times.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2467&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2467"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2468"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2468"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Mikee<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 10:26</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 10:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2468 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2468">38140.2468</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2462#a38140_2467" target="_self">38140.2467</a></div> <div class="message_body"> No, you told me you used the sand near your harvester for testing stuff - which is fair enough - i moved it, and you said the tree was in a bad place because you might extend the gardens, so I moved further out to make sure you had more than enough room to build any garden you might want to build.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 27 Jul 2011 10:28 by MIKEE</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2468&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2468"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2469"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2469"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Matt<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 10:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 10:41"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2469 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2469">38140.2469</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2462#a38140_2465" target="_self">38140.2465</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's a little unfair to make people walk to an area though, especially when a lot of the existing constructions are really close to the spawn. Why didn't you trudge off into the wilderness and build there, why did you conveniently choose somewhere so relatively close to the spawn to start building?<br /> <br /> From the perspective of someone new joining the server, or just someone who is thinking about starting to build something big, it's a really, really annoying to have to wander off somewhere before you can even think about building.<br /> <br /> Like, seriously, in the nicest way possible, fuck that.<br /> <br /> You (by which I mean everyone, including Mikee) shouldn't be allowed to stop people from building anywhere because you might want to build something there yourself, that's very elitist and quite a shitty attitude to have. If you have plans for an area you should have to stake a claim in it by fencing it off. This will stop people from saying don't build there, no not there either, nor there, go further away, I hate you, fuck off etc.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2469&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2469"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2470"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2470"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: ANT_THOMAS<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 10:41</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Matt <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Jul 2011 10:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2470 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2470">38140.2470</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2462#a38140_2469" target="_self">38140.2469</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>It isn't that near Spawn and Drew actually specifically found an area that was away from things with suitable amounts of flat area for when him, Patch and Kev started work on the Citadel. It may look like it's near everything now but it didn't used to be, buildings have sprung up nearby.</p> <p> </p> <p>Yeah it's difficult to know who is using what area but surely people want their own space for expansion etc so why not have a wander elsewhere. The map is there for a reason so you can see what's about, where's flat, where the water is, you can see the railway on it to see how easy it is to get to.</p> <p> </p> <p>If you feel out of the way build a railway and ask Kev nicely to connect it to the mainline and he'll do the job.</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2470&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2470"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a38140_2471"></a><div class="message" id="message_38140_2471"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)<span class="message_time">27 Jul 2011 10:52</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">2471 of 3934</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=38140.2471">38140.2471</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I agree with Matt's final bit. If you want to claim an area there needs to be an obvious boundary - it's why I used a fence and put torches round the coast.</p> <p> </p> <p>(FWIW, I wandered about then found a large unused area; didn't realise it was as close to spawn as it is.)</p> <p> </p> <p>However, new people also shouldn't be afraid to explore further out. Once you find an area, /home lets you get there *instantly* (excluding lag), nether gates can do it quickly (talk to HardWork), and tracks are relatively easy to build too.</p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 27 Jul 2011 10:54 by BOUGHTONP</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=38140.2471&return_msg=38140.2462" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="38140.2471"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="38140.2472" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>