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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.0&return_msg=32509.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.21">21–24</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=32509.1">Stop & Quiz</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="32509_1_24_10"> <a name="a32509_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">27 May 2007 21:28</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1">32509.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Or whatever they're calling it.<br /> <br /> Just reading about the (soon to be) proposed changes to law that would allow police officers to stop and question any person they have a 'reasonable suspicion' may know something about a crime. <br /> <br /> If the person refuses to answer they would be fined up to £5k and possibly charged with obstructing a police enquiry.<br /> <br /> So much for the 'right to remain silent' that I hear them go on about on The Bill...<br /> <br /> But what I find more disturbing and worrying is the attempt to demonize civil liberties, in particular this quote from Mr Blair (quote at bottome of article):<br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6696673.stm">Teh BBC</a></div><div class="quote">Writing in the Sunday Times, Tony Blair said the disappearance of the three suspects under control orders was a symptom of a society which put civil liberties before fighting terror, and that was "misguided and wrong".</div><br /> <br /> <br /> So civil liberties are misguided and wrong? What about human rights? I'm confused. And as TB admits that society puts civil liberties before terrorism laws, what right has he (or Gordon) got to impose laws that are directly at odds with the wishes of society? <br /> <br /> But more to the point I'm very worried about the way this country is going with it's 'war on terror'.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 27 May 2007 21:30 by KOSWIX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.1&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: MrTrent<span class="message_time">27 May 2007 21:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 May 2007 21:38"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.2">32509.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1#a32509_1" target="_self">32509.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> All this police state shit sucks arse, doesn't it. Fuck knows where it will end. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.2&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">27 May 2007 22:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 May 2007 08:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">3 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.3">32509.3</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1#a32509_1" target="_self">32509.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> It's just SUSS by another name. Who will be stopped and searched? People of AfroCaribbean and asian origin or descent. Way to build an alienation. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.3&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: sinkywinky<span class="message_time">27 May 2007 22:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 May 2007 08:16"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.4">32509.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1#a32509_3" target="_self">32509.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> And we'll need to make sure they are who they say they are. ID cards to the rescue!</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.4&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: JonCooper<span class="message_time">28 May 2007 08:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">5 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.5">32509.5</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I wonder if they are deliberatly trying to wreck their re-election chances, they know they've fucked the economy and want out before the shit hits the fan (so they can blame the other lot when it does) </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.5&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)<span class="message_time">28 May 2007 08:16</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 May 2007 08:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.6">32509.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1#a32509_1" target="_self">32509.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>You haven't had the right to remain silent since the 1994 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act. Following that, you do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Which not only violates your civil rights, but also ends a subordinate clause with a preposition.</p> <p> </p> <p>That said, when it gets to the point, as it has, where supposed civil/human rights are keeping dangerous criminals out of prison, it should give us pause.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.6&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">28 May 2007 08:20</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: sinkywinky <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 May 2007 08:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.7">32509.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1#a32509_4" target="_self">32509.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I have a faint hope that Brown will take advantage of the changeover to knock ID cards on the head once and for all. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.7&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">28 May 2007 08:27</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 May 2007 15:10"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.8">32509.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1#a32509_7" target="_self">32509.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Unfortunately, stubborness is an unattractive feature of many people who have risen into powerful positions. <br /><br /> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.8&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)<span class="message_time">28 May 2007 08:33</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: koswix <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 May 2007 08:35"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.9">32509.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1#a32509_1" target="_self">32509.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I just hope that there's some kind of legal requirement that when doing the Stop & Quiz thing, the police have to do it in the style of the old man from scene 24 in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.<br /> <br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">As the keeper of the bridge of death, you must answer me these questions three, 'ere the other side you see..<br /> </div><br /> <br /> etc.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 28 May 2007 08:33 by WINGNUTKJ</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.9&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.9"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a32509_10"></a><div class="message" id="message_32509_10"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: koswix<span class="message_time">28 May 2007 08:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 28 May 2007 08:51"></span></span> <span class="message_count">10 of 24</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.10">32509.10</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=32509.1#a32509_9" target="_self">32509.9</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <span class="emoticon e_grin" title=":-D"><span class="e__">:-D</span></span></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=32509.10&return_msg=32509.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="32509.10"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> 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