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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.0&return_msg=30586.27"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.1">1–10</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.11">11–20</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.21">21–30</a><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.31">31–40</a>…<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.61">61–64</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=30586.27">LP :meow:</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="30586_27_64_10"> <a name="a30586_27"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_27"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Sulkpot<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 07:05</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: SMD <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Sep 2006 19:39"></span></span> <span class="message_count">27 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.27">30586.27</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.25">30586.25</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Where were you in Christmas 1914? <span class="emoticon e_pipe" title=":Y"><span class="e__">:Y</span></span> <span class="emoticon e_embarrassed" title=":-$"><span class="e__">:-$</span></span> </p> <p> </p> <p>Sorry, LP. I think I'm with the piss-takers here. But not Trig.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.27&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.27"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_28"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_28"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: JonCooper<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 07:21</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">28 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.28">30586.28</a></div> <div class="message_body"> more people are dying now from the effects of clearing up 'ground zero'* than died on the day - I find that worse as it could have been prevented with the provision of masks etc.<br /> <br /> and why is 11/9/01 any worse than say <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/12/newsid_2531000/2531583.stm">12/10/84</a> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.28&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.28"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_29"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_29"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: lp<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 07:38</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: -Daz- <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Sep 2006 14:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">29 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.29">30586.29</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.22">30586.22</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Actually, no, it seems to go.</p> <p> </p> <p>Paul: "post"</p> <p> </p> <p>others: "cynical & typically 'teh' reply"</p> <p> </p> <p>Paul: "gets wound up"</p> <p> </p> <p>others: "mentions the fact that paul wants to join the police, as if that is some kind of reason for Paul to not have a reason for getting pissed off"</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>You know, other than mentioning my attempts to join the police in a matter of fact way I've not actually said anything that relates at all to it since I came back here, but people keep seemingly mentioning it to me like as if my having an opinion about things or getting wound up with geeks on the internet is in any way related to the way I would be with a uniform on. I've not said anything that would suggest that I would not be fair when dealing with people & it sucks that I can't have an argument without someone saying "mleh mleh special police, mleh" FUCK YOU!</p> <p> </p> <p>Saif: In 1994 I was 15 & not really that fussed about anything outside my circle of friends & more worried about what band I would discover next or when my next band practice was. Sorry.</p> <p> </p> <p>Also:</p> <p> </p> <p>"Sat in a park drinking white lightning, eating magic mushrooms and generally smacked of his tits before he became born again?"</p> <p> </p> <p>Seriously, fuck you. This is more of the same. I chose to cut out drink & smoke & the rest and I dont give a fuck if others do. That has nothing to do with my opinion. And I never took smack.</p> <p> </p> <p>I came back last month (after being pissed off one too many times) to see if any of the people who I wondered about & enjoyed the ramblings of were still here & still ok & they seem to be in a fashion, but unfortunately the people who are self important & cynical arses seem to still be cynical & self important arses (& I am one too, but I realised that this place seemed to make it worse)</p></div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.29&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.29"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_30"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_30"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: patch<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 07:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: lp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 May 2007 17:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">30 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.30">30586.30</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.27#a30586_29" target="_self">30586.29</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Just on the Police thing: get used to it. No-one gets introduced to new people as "This is Steve, he's an account director" in normal life, but "This is Bernard, he's a copper" happens all the time. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.30&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.30"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_31"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_31"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 08:03</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: lp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 May 2007 17:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">31 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.31">30586.31</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.16">30586.16</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Because you're an over-sensitive little crybaby?</p> <p> </p> <p>EDIT: other people had already done the copper thing; didn't want to be redundant.</p><div class="edit_text">EDITED: 12 Sep 2006 15:23 by RENDLE</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.31&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.31"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_32"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_32"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Username<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 09:15</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Woggy <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Sep 2006 10:06"></span></span> <span class="message_count">32 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.32">30586.32</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.26">30586.26</a></div> <div class="message_body"> lol </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.32&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.32"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_33"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_33"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 09:45</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: JonCooper <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Sep 2006 15:57"></span></span> <span class="message_count">33 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.33">30586.33</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.27#a30586_28" target="_self">30586.28</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>I believe it's worse because firstly, a lot more people died, and secondly the Brighton bomb was an attack against a government rather than an attack against ordinary civilians. I'm not saying the Brighton bomb was right, it was deplorable.</p> <p> </p> <p>Similaly with 9/11, most people think of the twin towers. Lots less think of the attack on the Pentagon because that could be constituted as a legitimate military/government target, even if it was a plane full of civilians which was used for the attack.</p> <p> </p> <p>Ultimately, I'm with LP on this one. Does America's foregin policy mean that we should remember or grieve for those civilians who died and their families any less? How would you feel if a terrorist had killed someone you knew? Would it be any more acceptable just because our government's foreign policy is bullshit?</p> <p> </p> <p>Had they lived, many of the victims of 9/11 probably would have been against America's role in Iraq. America is asking for it a lot of the time with its foreign policy, as is Britain to a degree these days. But targetted attacks designed to murder as many ordinary civilians as possible? Regardless of whether it's Al Quaeda, America, Israel, Iraqi insurgents etc, it's never even remotely condonable.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.33&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.33"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_34"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_34"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: -Daz-<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 14:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: lp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 8 May 2007 17:04"></span></span> <span class="message_count">34 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.34">30586.34</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.27#a30586_29" target="_self">30586.29</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Where were you on the night of July 28th when Nguku Muntabae was assaulted on Paddington Green?</p> <p> </p> <p>See? It all ties in.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.34&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.34"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_35"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_35"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: JonCooper<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 16:09</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Dave!! <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Sep 2006 18:11"></span></span> <span class="message_count">35 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.35">30586.35</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.27#a30586_33" target="_self">30586.33</a></div> <div class="message_body"> my concern is that the US thinks it's so much worse when it happens to them, the Brighton bombing was only one incident in a very long campaign of terrorisim that was mostly funded by the USA and in particular by New Yorkers<br /> <br /> when they supported and funded the poor Irish against the nasty tyrannical Brits it was ok<br /> <br /> but when it's the poor Iraquis or Afganis against the nasty and tyrannical USA that <i>cannot</i> be acceptable<br /> <br /> I note that it was proved last week, to the satisfaction of the US Senate, that Iraq did not support, fund or even trust Al Quaeda - so, no WMD & no Terrorists (then) yet we get to bomb the fuck out of them because we don't approve of their leader ~ when are we off to bomb Mugabe ? </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.35&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.35"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a30586_36"></a><div class="message" id="message_30586_36"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Dave!!<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2006 18:17</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: JonCooper <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 12 Sep 2006 18:22"></span></span> <span class="message_count">36 of 64</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.36">30586.36</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=30586.27#a30586_35" target="_self">30586.35</a></div> <div class="message_body"> <p>Quite right. I however don't give a damn about the US in general, but I do care about the needless death of civilians wherever it is. 9/11 was an atrocity, but so are most terrorist attacks and a lot of attacks by the US and particulaly recently, Israel. </p> <p> </p> <p>I never feel it OK to even try and justify any of them by thinking for example "What Israel did in Lebanon was bad, therefore that suicide bomber was justified in blowing up that Israeli market place" because the people who die and suffer are just civilians caught up in the mess created by their governments.</p> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=30586.36&return_msg=30586.27" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="30586.36"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> <div class="message_page_footer"> <ul> <li class="right_col"><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="DEFAULT" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="30586.37" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="keep_reading" value="Keep reading…" class="button" /></form></li> </ul> </div> </div> </body>