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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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43051.1 
Anyone here have knowledge/experience of scanning old slides to digital files?
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 From:  Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
43051.2 In reply to 43051.1 
Have you tried asking PB?

I'm surprised you don't already have photography based solutions to this, were you leaning towards a scanner?  I have no experience, before you get your hopes up, just curious.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Some call me... (PSYCHO_GEEZER)     
43051.3 In reply to 43051.2 
I'm leaning towards any solution that can cope with thousands of slides, is Debian compatible, and doesn't involve sending them away.

I can conceive a bunch of potential methods for shining a light through a slide and taking a sufficiently high-resolution in-focus image, but there may be unforseen pitfalls, so a known "this will work" solution would be great.

The information is very likely out there somewhere, but trying to search today's web is far too frustrating.

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
43051.4 In reply to 43051.3 
> but trying to search today's web is far too frustrating.

It *really* is. I've all but given up on the web as a searchable world of information and insights. It's just a handful of web-apps that I reluctantly use.

As for the slides, there are carousel-fed slide scanners, they're quite expensive. But I'm sure you knew that. And on the software side you'd be dealing with SANE but I assume you knew that too.

You *can* scan slides just by arranging them on a flatbed scanner but the results are obviously pretty low-quality. Easy to chop up with Imagemagick though.

Either way, definitely going to be an un-fun experience and I wish you luck (hug)

 
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
43051.5 In reply to 43051.1 
I have an Epson 1660 flatbed with film/slide scanning. It does a fairly good job for a low-end device. The hardest part is getting dust off the platen and both sides of the originals, and in some cases film curl.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
43051.6 In reply to 43051.3 
I think you mean an auto-loading, jam-proof, set it and forget it device. No such animal.

My advice would be to obtain a light table, a real one, cull it down to 100-150 must scan images, and take it from there.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)     
43051.7 In reply to 43051.6 
I think any culling has already happened, at least for the bulk, but that could still be a useful idea for grouping.

If I can get something that's a constant white, maybe the least painful option would be tripod with a macro lens, and clamping a ruler so there's only one dimension of alignment to deal with.

I guess the question would then become how much does one need to pay to ensure the light is sufficiently diffused - are the cheap illustrator-targetted options good enough or would they have a subtle pattern when photographed.

According to Andrew Clifforth, it's the latter, but a good diffuser can overcome that, however they want £65+ and 17 working days to send out some plastic. :/

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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
43051.8 In reply to 43051.7 
There's a bunch of adaptors for DSLR and cellphone scanning out there, I haven't tried any myself but they look like they could save a ton of alignment and lighting hassles.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)     
43051.9 In reply to 43051.8 
Hrm, I think I thought I'd looked for that and not found anything, but I guess I hadn't actually looked.

Nikon do one, though obviously it has an uncommon thread size... I think it'll fit my Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX, and of course it's £150/160 new, or £115 from the nearest used/refurbished shop, where I could physically confirm it fits, and test whether my extension tubes allow close enough focusing. That's still a fair amount of money for a few bits of plastic.

For a similar price there's a Kenro 302 scanner which can be used standalone and outputs to SD card - though is only 8MP JPGs instead of the cropped 16MP NEF raw files my camera would give, but would probably still be good enough.

But then, I do have a diffuser already, so if that can sufficiently blur the pixels of a bright white screen (I need to go get it and test), then the rest might be tedious but ultimately solvable.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
43051.10 In reply to 43051.4 
p.s. Thanks for your response too - I'm not deliberately ignoring you, just couldn't think of a reply.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
43051.11 In reply to 43051.10 
I said nothing useful, no worries!
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
43051.12 In reply to 43051.1 
Various light box/light sources + DSLR set ups that give good results, but it you want a faster solution then would recommend the Plustek Optiscan range. I tried the Epson mentioned above and found it to be awful (had several dead lines on the light source)

I bought one to digitise a load of old film and slides. Didn't bother with the bundled software just used it straight from VueScan. My approach was to get a nice flat well exposed scan and then used a Lightroom plugin to develop them based on profile of the film chemistry they came from (forget the name of it, cost about 20 quid I think)


Once I was done I sold the scanner back on eBay for about 30 quid less than I paid for it 8 months earlier.

https://plustek.com/gbr/products/film-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-se/


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