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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   29 Mar 2018 09:13 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      123 of 145 
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Sorry, it's not funny (except in the context of Russian bots). Brexit could still be derailed if this fraud/overspending thing sticks.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   29 Mar 2018 09:23 
 To:  koswix      124 of 145 
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I dreamed last night I couldn't figure out the bios (I looked at some screen shots yesterday) or get the Win 7 installer to boot.  :-@

But, assuming that nightmare doesn't come to pass, it looks like Fedora (my preferred Linux) should be installable on UEFI just as Ant said: https://www.tecmint.com/install-fedora-27-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/  :-D
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   29 Mar 2018 11:51 
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Plus don't forget Microsoft was giving away Win10 - they more their malware spreads, the better (for them).
 
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   29 Mar 2018 11:57 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      126 of 145 
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Whilst the Tories are in control, the only way it could stop is if it they see a better way to keep themselves in power whilst creating a weakened and fractured society. Leaving the EU still hands that to them far better than staying.
 
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   29 Mar 2018 13:58 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      127 of 145 
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There's a sizable faction that are agin', so if they vote with Labour (assuming Corbin allows it), it's game over.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   29 Mar 2018 16:02 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      128 of 145 
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Vote what when?

Tories aren't stupid enough to force another early election knowing what they're up against.

 
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   29 Mar 2018 16:09 
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All the stuffs here plus a couple of parts I bought locally, including a PSU and dvd-drive.

I decided not to cannibalize my current pc in case the build goes south. I got a cheapo PSU (coolmax v500) then for a reality check ran the salient parts (MB, PSU, GPU, RAM, OS) through part pucker, and (amazingly) it all checked out as compatible. Fingers crossed for really old (>15-years) case and dodgy Win7 key.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   29 Mar 2018 16:20 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      130 of 145 
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Stay with the tour.
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 From:  graphitone   29 Mar 2018 18:46 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      131 of 145 
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We need photos of this build!


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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   29 Mar 2018 22:57 
 To:  graphitone      132 of 145 
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I'll use my cheapass 1MP phone cam. Main concern at this point is mb standoffs.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   30 Mar 2018 18:59 
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So I'm booted into my new system and (apparently) all systems are go after considerable faffing around with power connectors. It wouldn't power on at all until I figured out 4-pin cpu power plug good, 6-pin bad (the receptacle is for 8). And after that mighty binge, I owe Mrs.D some quality time. Um, with beer and all. Maybe not top quality, then.
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 From:  graphitone   30 Mar 2018 21:11 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      134 of 145 
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Are you testing the system before you whack it all in a case, or have you completed the build already? Just wondering 'cos you mentioned the mobo standoffs being an issue.


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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   30 Mar 2018 21:39 
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No, the standoffs were fine (I  had to move one). Turns out this really old mid-tower case is kitted up for mATX mbs as well as full ATX, which surprised the hell out of me. I had a problem with the power led and internal alarm speaker plugs being too big to fit the mb front panel connectors, but I figured they are non-essential. When the system wouldn't power on at all I thought the front power switch was busted, and I tried shorting the pins but that didn't work either. Then I checked the PSU with a paper clip and it powered up, tried plugging and unplugging the main 24-pin atx power connector several times, thinking it wasn't seated properly (I was really afraid I'd shorted out the mb during assembly with a dropped screw or 3). I was at a loss when I remembered reading that the 4-pin cpu power plug worked in an 8-pin receptacle. There's no documentation on the 6-pin plug at the coolmax spec page (not even mentioned, just the 4, the 24 and assorted SATA and molex connectors), maybe it's for a GPU? Probly essay Win7 tomorrow. Took a while to figure out the freaky new UEFI bios. You have to spec 'legacy' for an mbr-formatted hdd, when I did that it booted into pre-installed Fedora no prob.
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)   30 Mar 2018 21:55 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      136 of 145 
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Pretty sure I've got an pin connector for my GPU.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   30 Mar 2018 23:38 
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)      137 of 145 
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I know some do, mine doesn't.
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)   31 Mar 2018 00:05 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      138 of 145 
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There was supposed to be a 6 in my message but my phone ate it.
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)    31 Mar 2018 08:34 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      139 of 145 
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Shirley the 8 pin connector is for the CPU and the 6 pin supply is for a graphics card.  At least that's what I thought but Google suggests that some boards use the 6 pin connector for a CPU as well. My mobo (Gigabyte Z97x plus some letters and numbers) has an 8 pin connector. The CPU is an i5 Haswell chewing through 88W.

Linustechtips.com tells me that a 4 pin connection supports 155 watts and is intended for CPUs with low to mid-range greediness. An 8 pin connection supports 235 watts and is intended for hobs, room-heaters and the like. You should be absolutely fine.

 
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   31 Mar 2018 11:52 
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Whelp, Win7 key 'sgood
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   31 Mar 2018 13:43 
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Build pics
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   2 Apr 2018 12:29 
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Linux being linux there's always one quirk.
S3 suspend doesn't work correctly. It won't wake up properly.
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