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 From:  graphitone    3 Nov 2016 15:27 
 To:  koswix      71 of 84 
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Ah yeah, I've not sold anything on eBay for sometime, and was forgetting about that.

Didn't you or Ant work out the profit margins on selling stuff on eBay a while back, as if you were a business?


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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)   3 Nov 2016 17:17 
 To:  graphitone       72 of 84 
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A couple of the reviews:

http://simonmarksmith.com/wordpress/uncategorized/not-slating-the-slate-is-this-the-best-drawing-and-note-taking-tablet-for-the-ipad/

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/10/27/13434636/iskn-slate-review-digitize-paper-drawings-magnetic-ring

There are several if you just search on 'iskn slate review' or similar. 
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 From:  koswix   3 Nov 2016 18:15 
 To:  graphitone       73 of 84 
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I did, don't recall if I posted it here though. It's shocking how much they take really. A 10 quid market, for instance, works out at about 2 quid profit. 

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   3 Nov 2016 19:49 
 To:  graphitone       74 of 84 
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Same as Kos, don't know if I've posted it but I've had a tentative look. I've been tempted for a long time to bring in a couple of hundred pounds worth of something in bulk from China to sell on eBay. Things like arduino relays and other small components.

Never did the maths properly to figure out how many and how cheap I'd need to get them for to make it worthwhile. Especially when you look at the market prices, cost of postage, ebay fees, PayPal fees, potential for people to be dicks and say they've not turned up or they are broken.
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 From:  koswix   5 Nov 2016 17:06 
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Well I got paid for some work today, so I just ordered the Huion h610 pro for 45 quid. If it's awful I'll punt it back on ebay and get a wacom pen and touch (quite like the idea of touch sensor for zoom and stuff, but don't know if I'd actually use it). 

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 From:  koswix   10 Nov 2016 14:48 
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So my Huion H610 Pro arrived yesterday. Got to say that I'm very impressed so far, it's years ahead of the old Bamboo that I used to have. Not sure it's got the right feel for sketching directly, but certainly it's good enough for colouring.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/332141d4zepjfpk/seated%20nude.jpg?dl=0

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   10 Nov 2016 22:33 
 To:  koswix      77 of 84 
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> Not sure it's got the right feel for sketching directly, but certainly it's good enough for colouring.

Can you elaborate on that? Are you saying it's more like a felt tip than a pencil/biro, or something else?
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 From:  koswix   10 Nov 2016 23:29 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      78 of 84 
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It's not really like any of them.

I've disabled the buttons on the pen as I couldn't really workout how to hold it comfortably and not accidentally press them. I tend to rotate the pen as I draw, so even starting off in a good position doesn't last long. Also I instinctively want to hold it in a writing position, but for sketching I'd normally hold a pencil in a variety of ways depending on the stroke and control required (NJ), which feels a bit silly with this and not really comfortable or intuitive either.

The feel of the pen on the surface is hard to describe. It lacks the bite that a real pencil has on paper. I think there's less tactile feedback. I experimented with putting a piece of paper over the surface which does improve things, but I suspect the (replaceable) nib would wear out far too quickly with that on.

The disconnect between drawing on a board and seeing the results on a screen is something I think I'll.get used to, though. Going to experiment with a reduced active area tomorrow and see if that improves the feel and drawing position. With the whole area active I find I'm reluctant to move my hand as much as I would on paper and end up drawing in a really uncomfortable position, which also leads to bad results as lines go awry. 

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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   11 Nov 2016 01:25 
 To:  koswix      79 of 84 
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Yeah I found tablets, even bigish ones really cramped my drawing style. Way better than mouse, but not really satisfactory in any way that encouraged me try to improve with practice. OTOH I found a tablet, even a 4x5" model excelled for using the pen tool in photoshop, and similar bezier drawing and curves manipulation in 3d animation software.
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 From:  koswix   11 Nov 2016 09:50 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      80 of 84 
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Going to try it in mud box later, and it's great for tracing scans to vectors in inkscape. 

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2016 00:46 
 To:  koswix      81 of 84 
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I want a Huion GT-190 with IPS screen, so I can do photo manipulation stuff, so don't need it like a pencil so long as it's easier than a mouse to mask and clone and stuff, which I expect it should be.

Wish there was a way to try them out, but maybe if any place does offers this week I'll just go for it.
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 From:  koswix   20 Nov 2016 09:15 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      82 of 84 
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Surely there must be somewhere in London that has them in Stock and able to demonstrate them? 

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   20 Nov 2016 13:02 
 To:  koswix      83 of 84 
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If there is, they're not behind a search engine. :(
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 From:  koswix   20 Nov 2016 19:49 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      84 of 84 
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Ah well, just order one from Amazon then and if you don't like it send it back.

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