Res vs Hz - Teh Forum

From:	Dave!!	4 May 2016 18:44
To:	Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)	15 of 33

41737.15 In reply to 41737.1
For me, resolution and display quality wins every day over refresh speed. I've never used a modern 60Hz TFT and thought it's slow, jerky, ghosty or whatever. ---

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From:	CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)	4 May 2016 18:57
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	16 of 33

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OK, I'm playing most weeknights from ~5:45-6:45p EST, but lately I've been going back and forth on GRAWF2 for the slower, methodical pace. Not sure how that would work actually as I pause the game frequently to make/monitor supper. Might be able to get mrs.d to cover for me one night. Probly better to set up a weekend time where I could play for ~an hour uninterrupted. Also be good to work out a teamspeak mode (see, I bought this headset). They do xp and linux clients along with the usual suspects, but someone has to run a server. The other thing you mentioned don't do xp. Roland Skollani was sick of Pittsburgh. This city was the dead-end of his failed dreams and even dope didn’t help his choking fits no more. It had been a mistake to leave Hollywood and to follow Rita. Maybe it was a twist of fate, that there were only a few days left to leave his ex-wife’s house. Now he MUST act. Rita had a new lover and he didn’t mind, but why of all people did she choose this greedy, corrupt cop Lennon?

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	4 May 2016 19:26
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	17 of 33

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We all need to get together and play something again. That used to be a blast! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If you don't like donut, then leave it alone. Nobody force you to eat it."

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From:	graphitone	4 May 2016 20:05
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	18 of 33

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Yep. I'm up for some Vroom too. Drawings n' that

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	4 May 2016 22:58
To:	CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)	19 of 33

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Sounds good to me. Discord is the way to go for voice (I already have a teh server (which you're already in so it turns out I didn't need to mention that)). , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	4 May 2016 23:47
To:	ALL	20 of 33

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I remember back before TFT when there was a clear difference between 60Hz and 85Hz, and it was worth switching down to 16-bit colour to get the higher refresh rate. (I also remember regularly whipping all your arses at /real/ CS, but I coulda done that with 40Mhz too.) `3.1415P265E589T932E846R64338`

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	5 May 2016 00:16
To:	Peter (BOUGHTONP)	21 of 33

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CRT pixels refresh (pretty much) instantaneously between states whereas TFT pixels kinda fade in and out so the flicker is far less evident. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	koswix	5 May 2016 02:33
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 of 33

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I thought it was to do with the way they are addressed. A TFT pixel only changes if it needs to (as in, as long as the voltage is applied the pixel is lit), whereas a CRT pixel has to be relit every frame (unless it's black).


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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	5 May 2016 03:25
To:	koswix	23 of 33

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I think both are true. And I think CRTs also scan differently...? , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Chris (CHRISSS)	5 May 2016 06:42
To:	koswix	24 of 33

41737.24 In reply to 41737.22
Video here of a CRT refreshing at different slow mo speeds. https://youtu.be/8sThyWQC4RY And an extra slow one here https://youtu.be/2nQ_gEJ6B4A Me

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From:	Chris (CHRISSS)	5 May 2016 06:46
To:	Chris (CHRISSS)	25 of 33

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LCD would be lit the whole time. Unless the back light flickers to reduce the brightness. Something to do with persistence of vision in the eyes too. A CRT burns your retina for a shorter amount of time each frame so moving objects don't persist in your eyes as long and are less blurry. I think. Me

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From:	Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)	5 May 2016 07:40
To:	ALL	26 of 33

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Thanks all I have a mate coming around on the weekend to get a second opionion whilst I test between the two. I shall report back my findings then. I am leaning towards the Dell monitor just because it looks so damn good.

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From:	william (WILLIAMA)	5 May 2016 08:24
To:	Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)	27 of 33

41737.27 In reply to 41737.26
Ah, the power of cookies. After reading this thread and checking your two links, Amazon offered to sell me the Dell when I logged into Facebook this morning. never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead

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From:	Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)	5 May 2016 11:40
To:	william (WILLIAMA)	28 of 33

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They love you!

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From:	Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)	11 May 2016 09:56
To:	ALL	29 of 33

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Well I went for the Dell in the end, its rather spashing to play games on AND has I found a cheap monitor arm on Amazon I decided to free my desk of all monitor stands, no idea why I didn't do this years ago. Now, where did I put that revision time table (checks bin) Cheers all
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From:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	12 May 2016 16:54
To:	Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)	30 of 33

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Yeah, I've been using a two-arm desktop clamping stand for a few years as well, it's so much better than having stands... I really wouldn't mind a new monitor to be honest - I've got a couple of 22" 1080 LG IPS thingies, which are honestly fine for me, but the lure of a single ~30" 4K display is so "ooooohhh!" [...Insert Brain Here...]

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From:	milko	12 May 2016 20:05
To:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	31 of 33

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I know this is mental right. but I have a 30" display and I think my next one might be smaller. Obviously it's great for gaming, but for actual standard desktop use I do find myself having to actually look for things and move my head and that.

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From:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	16 May 2016 11:44
To:	milko	32 of 33

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Actually, not mental at all.. I find I have to do that with my two 21" screens - so I guess a 27" 4K display would actually be a good "compromise" cough. [...Insert Brain Here...]

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From:	Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)	20 May 2016 13:44
To:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	33 of 33

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I don't like working on anything larger than 25" (NJ) as Mike pointed out, I don't want to actually move my head when working on something. It's the same for games, I don't really like playing on massive screens, even if I sit far back from it. I like to huddle infront of the screen all by my self.

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