War & Politics"Revenge" in Leytonstone

 

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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  JonCooper     
41640.49 In reply to 41640.48 
I might have a bit of a job alone, but...

It would be my fervent hope that, in the event of strange things happening, at least some folks [within the government/military] would have enough sense about them to not allow deterioration of government/people relations to the point where there had to be armed conflict between the two sides to settle the differences. 

I suspect though, given historical events, if push came to shove, Americans would do what they had to in order to ensure freedom - even though we are generally much more fat and soft than we have ever been.
 
  Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?
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Message 41640.50 deleted 11 Dec 2015 02:05 by X3N0PH0N

 From:  af (CAER)  
 To:  JonCooper     
41640.51 In reply to 41640.45 
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From what I have seen, most USians seem to be trained from an early age to do exactly what any Police officer tells them

Because they're at risk of being shot if they don't.
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Message 41640.52 deleted 2 Jan 2016 17:16 by DSMITHHFX

 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  af (CAER)     
41640.53 In reply to 41640.51 
pretty much what I was pointing out, they never resist at all so being armed so's they can fight against the government is just bullshit

Jon
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 From:  Harry (HARRYN)  
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Jon, you are right that the majority of Americans that own guns don't have any interest at all in using them in a violent way.  For many, shooting at targets is a sport, not so different than golfing, which is one of the reasons that it is not always clear why the reaction of people who are against the rights of the individual are so intense.

Even if every man, woman, child, police officer, and national guardsman in CA tried to take on the US Army, the whole thing would be over in less than 1 week.  If it took longer, it would only be because they were trying to spare people's lives.

While the idea that the People might have to take the responsibility of taking on the US government by force, hardly anyone would want to do this, in spite of its imperfections.  The preferred approach, when possible, is elections, or public shaming.  That is why freedom of speech, and not allowing the "creeping in" of "some things cannot be talked about.  Talking helps avoid problems.

Americans are much more likely to take up arms in DEFENSE of the US, not against it, and in that role, they could be quite effective.

 
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 From:  Harry (HARRYN)  
 To:  koswix     
41640.55 In reply to 41640.37 
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We have a glut of deer in the Highlands. Land owners take as much as they can realistically use/sell, but there's still too many according to some (mainly complaining about the destruction they cause to forestry and their tendency to jump in front of cars).

Some idiots are even campaigning to reintroduce a top level predator like the wolf to keep them under control.


They introduced wolves into the state of Montana.  in just a few years, they wiped out everything, bison, deer, etc.  They have even chased the bears out.  It used to be that you could regularly see wild animals, now it is just barren.

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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  Harry (HARRYN)     
41640.56 In reply to 41640.54 
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Even if every man, woman, child, police officer, and national guardsman in CA tried to take on the US Army, the whole thing would be over in less than 1 week.  If it took longer, it would only be because they were trying to spare people's lives.

The poor Army! Then all we would have is the Navy, Air Force and Marines! Ruins the commercial...  :-P

 
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