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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  koswix     
41498.115 In reply to 41498.114 
I discovered that MS balanced a bowl of water on the door for home network users upgrading to 10 who don't use homegroups but naively followed the recommended 'use your MS account details' for an ID and password.

It may not hit that many users, but from Windows 8 onwards if you use an MS account to log on and you want to view shares on other PCs on a home network that are also at 8 or above, Windows imposes a sort of bodged domain network model. You are required to enter an ID and password to view shares, your 'domain' is the name of your PC, and it royally screws things like network drives mapped to shares.

I never noticed this before because I had a mixture of boxes at 7 and 8. It's a pain to work round in 8 and 8.1 but relatively easy to switch to a local user in 10 if you know what the problem is and that this is the way to fix it. It wasn't something I'd ever seen publicised, and judging from the other bewildered users floundering around with half-arsed fixes, I'm not alone.

The issue is compounded because the 'join a domain or workgroup' wizard is broken for many users but in a way that gives the impression that something other than the wizard is broken - i.e. when you check the radio button to indicate that this is mainly a home PC and not business, the wizard hangs for a bit, tells you to restart (without asking what workgroup of domain you want), sets your work group back to the default 'workgroup' and when you restart you find that it's defaulted back to 'this PC is part of a business network'.
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
41498.116 In reply to 41498.115 
How does it work if you use a homegroup?

Can't say i've noticed any changes in how the network is handled from 8.1. When I did the upgrade install I'm sure my mapped drive to my Raspberry Pi showed up as normal :|

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  koswix     
41498.117 In reply to 41498.116 
I couldn't say - I've never used a homegroup

As for the mapped drive thing, I assume you weren't running Windows 8 on your pi. The situation arises when a windows machine tries to see shares on another windows machine, both machines are at 8 or above and the one you're logged on to is using a Microsoft account (koswix@outlook.com etc.) as a user ID.
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
41498.118 In reply to 41498.117 
Ah. What if both have logged in with an Ms account.

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  koswix     
41498.119 In reply to 41498.118 
Again, I don't know because I haven't tried.
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
41498.120 In reply to 41498.119 
Is there a reason you don't use home groups? I switched it on as soon I got windows 7, it makes windows to Windows networking a lot easier/more reliable.

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  koswix     
41498.121 In reply to 41498.120 
Because I had XP and Linux running with Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (and a bit of Android and whatever crap all the other toys use) and it all worked fine. Then when I rebuilt the XP box and put Windows 7 on it, it still worked fine, so I didn't bother with homegroups because I didn't think it was a good idea to poke at a network that worked. I only had a problem when I put Windows 10 onto the Windows boxes and the account thing kicked in.


 
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
41498.122 In reply to 41498.115 
I just rebooted my laptop, first time since installing WinX. My usual password didn't log me in. Realised it had decided to use my Hotmail as the user account. I use KeePass for Hotmail passwords so had to find my silly long password on my phone.

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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
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41498.123 
And I noticed some strange things happening like the icons in the taskbar being hidden my the Cort Ana and task buttons but that was due to still having Start8 installed.

Me
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