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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
41329.49 In reply to 41329.45 
Try it again, but heat the work until you see some smoke (possibly about 15 seconds) then apply the solder to the work. Your soldering will improve with practice and it is much easier with 60/40 lead-based solder; I prefer it.
 
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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  JonCooper     
41329.50 In reply to 41329.48 
Yes, he might have even been grateful for the respite.  :-P
 
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
41329.51 In reply to 41329.46 
I find lots of situations would be easier with 3 arms (YJ)

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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  JonCooper     
41329.52 In reply to 41329.48 
Unfortunately, yes. He's always clammed up with things like this, but the whole situation is something he's having trouble dealing with...e
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  fixrman     
41329.53 In reply to 41329.49 
I tried soldering a cable through an unused point on an old PSU. Terrible first job but managed to get a decent soldered joint the second time.

The EEVblog tutorial I watched said not to bother with pointy tips as they don't transfer the heat unless you lay it flat on the PCB.

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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
41329.54 In reply to 41329.53 
Pointy tips cab be tough and also one must keep the iron clean and well tinned.

Try to make a cone out of the solder mound.
 
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  fixrman     
41329.55 In reply to 41329.54 
I think I may be getting the hang of it now. Definitely much easier with this soldering station than other irons I've used. Nice to know it's up to temp.

I managed to desolder a connection, suck it up with solder wick and resolder it. I've got some other tips for it on the way which I'm hoping will be easier than the pointy one.

Need to find out about cleaning/tinning it too. The stand has a sponge in it to wipe the tip on.

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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
41329.56 In reply to 41329.55 
>>The stand has a sponge in it to wipe the tip on.

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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  koswix     
41329.57 In reply to 41329.56 
Well that's definitely a YJ.

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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
41329.58 In reply to 41329.55 
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The stand has a sponge in it to wipe the tip on.

Said the vicar to the acolyte.

 
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  fixrman     
41329.59 In reply to 41329.58 
How's this looking? I think the problem I used to have was only trying very tip of the iron which just doesn't seem to heat up enough.

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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
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41329.60 
Finished project. Mostly happy with the soldering apart from one or two where the contact point isn't fully covered in solder. And the motor mounts, struggled to get them to solder and don't like the way it's held in place.

Unfortunately one of the motors doesn't work so it just goes round in circles. Not sure it too much heat from the iron damaged the motor but I can see the brushes on the motor are in the wrong place and can't move them :(

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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
41329.61 In reply to 41329.59 
Perfect! Solder still looks liquid, indicative of a good joint. A dry-looking, grainy joint is a cold solder joint and will fail, shiny and wet-looking = success! Excellent!
 
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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
41329.62 In reply to 41329.60 
The motors are hard to solder in place because the motor housing is heavier gauge metal. Heat the housing first so solder will melt on it, then place it next to the mount surface and heat them together, adding solder to the light side. Should do the trick.

Is there a way to reverse the polarity to that DC motor? I doubt the heat hurt the motor, it may be just defective. Did you test it first?
 
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  fixrman     
41329.63 In reply to 41329.61 
:D I am surprised how easy it was actually. I had read plenty of times that soldering is easy so not sure if it was the technique, iron or a combination of both but it was far easier than I was expecting from previous attempts.

I didn't think to try the motors before fixing them. Maybe I could get another and swap it over.

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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
41329.64 In reply to 41329.63 
Just make sure everything doesn't look like something to be soldered. You might cheese somebody off.  :-P
 
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 From:  Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)  
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41329.65 
Well met all of teh. This year was all about William so we have spent most of it making and playing with lego. I did get a new graphic novel (hedge knight by George r martin) and a newish pratchett non fiction book. Some money for my new gaming pc (anyone want to buy a GTX 670 for £100?) and a star wars mug.

In Taunton for a few days at the mo, went on a steam train yesterday and fossil hunting on a beach somewhere.

This holiday is going way to quickly for my liking.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to one and all forumites and family's

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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)     
41329.66 In reply to 41329.65 
Merry Christmas and HNY to you from across the pond.
 
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 From:  Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)  
 To:  fixrman     
41329.67 In reply to 41329.66 
Thank you dear chap

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 From:  fixrman  
 To:  Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)     
41329.68 In reply to 41329.67 
I think I am going to try to be with you lot since you get the NY first. Hopefully I get to talk to my cous in Ireland and the other in MOE.

Thanks for the greeting. I think that is the first time I have been called, "dear chap".  :-D  (beer)

Cheers!
 
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