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From:	fixrman	15 Oct 2014 02:04
To:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	95 of 177

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Brits can kill each other too, and have done. It is messy and takes a long time, but even a bumbershoot will do.

I'd say at this point this thread has gone long past a useful purpose, that being gun laws. You are now reducing it to taunting and ridicule. Gun laws: We have them. They aren't good enough and/or aren't being followed.

I won't convince anyone they should have or want to have guns, and you folks will not convince me to give up my right to have or own them - not that I want to do either. It is an impasse.

Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?

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From:	Manthorp	15 Oct 2014 02:51
To:	fixrman	96 of 177

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Kinda what I said some time ago. But it's not an impasse because there's no meaningful dispute. We operate on different moral guages. Who's to say which is right? Morality is more relative than any of us would care to think. The common ground is in agreeing that nations and communities have the right to their own moral principles and supporting legislation. A chacun son goût, as they say. "We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked." James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951 www.mynameislegion.org

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From:	fixrman	15 Oct 2014 15:11
To:	Manthorp	97 of 177

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No, actually you are right. I am not disputing we have some problems with our gun laws. They need to be followed.

The discussion got sidetracked to assertions that Americans should give up their guns and guns should be made illegal. Whether or not I agree in immaterial because it isn't up to me. I will say this though, I do not believe giving up rights for safety is a guarantee for more safety - it could mean less.

Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?

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From:	fixrman	20 Oct 2014 21:42
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You know, one of the issues here in the U.S. that nobody seems to take account of is that here in the U.S., another reason people have guns is that we live in a much more dangerous and wild environment than folks in the U.K. do.

Here we have dogs, wolves, opossum, moose, bears, mountain lions, coyotes, crocodiles, alligators. Dog attacks alone cost about a billion dollars a year due to injuries and deaths. Even deer cause lots of vehicular damage and about 100 deaths per year. Have to cull the herds.

Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?

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From:	ANT_THOMAS	20 Oct 2014 21:50
To:	fixrman	99 of 177

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Not too dissimilar to many farmers in the UK legally owning guns. I imagine most people on here wouldn't disagree that owning guns for protection against wild animals is a reasonable thing. It's the owning guns for protection against other people that the disagreement more than likely lies. ┌─────┐ │ │ │ ┌─┐ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─┘ │ │ │ │ ┌─┐ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─┘ └─┘

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From:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	21 Oct 2014 00:51
To:	ANT_THOMAS	100 of 177

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Then they need to stop acting like wild animals! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you don't like donut, then leave it alone. Nobody force you to eat it.

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From:	fixrman	21 Oct 2014 01:19
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	101 of 177

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Can i hear an Amen?

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From:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	22 Oct 2014 05:49
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	102 of 177

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I'm a horror movie and show freak myself. :) I agree. You don't have to kill to protect, but if they've got the means to shoot back, I'll be damned if I'm giving them the chance to do it. I haven't been prepping for the worst and to protect my family so someone of ill intent can break into my home, hurt those I love, and take what I've saved up for them. I won't kill if I don't have to, but I have to, I will. I'm sure I'm not the only who feels that way these days. Especially with the state of our country and the economy, and it's not just our country having problems. Cybatrons Free Network: Where Free isn't just a word! A free hosting network run by people for people! Free hosting for Beehive or PHPBB forums with Ajax Chat. Need a nice place to build your online community? Well then check out the CFN member sites! CFN Beehive Styles Gallery

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From:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	22 Oct 2014 05:50
To:	fixrman	103 of 177

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Quote: I don't miss. Ask the squirrel. ;-) :-D Cybatrons Free Network: Where Free isn't just a word! A free hosting network run by people for people! Free hosting for Beehive or PHPBB forums with Ajax Chat. Need a nice place to build your online community? Well then check out the CFN member sites! CFN Beehive Styles Gallery

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From:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	22 Oct 2014 05:57
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	104 of 177

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Unfortunately, a lot aren't smart enough to fear the sound of a gun. They're where a lot of the problems are born. They think the owner won't actually shoot them. Sometimes they're right, but sometimes they're wrong, and like you said, bad shit happens. I'm of the opinion it's they're own damn fault for breaking in in the first place, and in the second not getting out quick at the sound of that gun. Cybatrons Free Network: Where Free isn't just a word! A free hosting network run by people for people! Free hosting for Beehive or PHPBB forums with Ajax Chat. Need a nice place to build your online community? Well then check out the CFN member sites! CFN Beehive Styles Gallery

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From:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	22 Oct 2014 06:02
To:	graphitone	105 of 177

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Mentally unstable people should not be allowed to handle or own weapons. I'm all in favor or psychological evaluations for people wanting to own a gun, and periodic reevaluations after gun ownership is obtained. They're a big responsibility. I also don't think kids (under 18) should be able to even handle one without responsible adult supervision. Such as hunting or target shooting with responsible, trained adult. Cybatrons Free Network: Where Free isn't just a word! A free hosting network run by people for people! Free hosting for Beehive or PHPBB forums with Ajax Chat. Need a nice place to build your online community? Well then check out the CFN member sites! CFN Beehive Styles Gallery

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From:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	22 Oct 2014 06:04
To:	Ken (SHIELDSIT)	106 of 177

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Quote: If I were going to kill someone I think it would be much more fun to chase them around with my car! You're own weight loss program? Lots of cardio? :-D Do you expect you'll get a lot of clients? :-P Cybatrons Free Network: Where Free isn't just a word! A free hosting network run by people for people! Free hosting for Beehive or PHPBB forums with Ajax Chat. Need a nice place to build your online community? Well then check out the CFN member sites! CFN Beehive Styles Gallery

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From:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	22 Oct 2014 06:10
To:	fixrman	107 of 177

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When one of ours turns nuisance we try to trap it, transport it to a state park, then release it into the wild. We don't generally shoot them, unless it's a problem squirrel and won't get in the trap. So far, we've only had to relocate four of the locals. The rest mind their manners and get to stay. :-) Cybatrons Free Network: Where Free isn't just a word! A free hosting network run by people for people! Free hosting for Beehive or PHPBB forums with Ajax Chat. Need a nice place to build your online community? Well then check out the CFN member sites! CFN Beehive Styles Gallery

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	22 Oct 2014 06:23
To:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	108 of 177

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quote: cybatron Mentally unstable people should not be allowed to ... own weapons. They don't. They take their parents' guns to school. bastard by name bastard by nature

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From:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	22 Oct 2014 07:47
To:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	109 of 177

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And I think both should be held accountable. The person for what they did, and their parents for what they didn't do. Such as preventing access to their weapons by anyone except them, plus having the ammo stored elsewhere and secured as well. A lot of people are far too lax when it comes to securing dangerous items from others. Cybatrons Free Network: Where Free isn't just a word! A free hosting network run by people for people! Free hosting for Beehive or PHPBB forums with Ajax Chat. Need a nice place to build your online community? Well then check out the CFN member sites! CFN Beehive Styles Gallery

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	22 Oct 2014 08:02
To:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	110 of 177

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quote: cybatron A lot of people are far too lax when it comes to securing dangerous items from others. And that's the real point, I guess. Mind you, the whole 'ban guns because they could fall into the wrong hands' argument could apply similarly to cars and matches. bastard by name bastard by nature

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From:	DeannaG (CYBATRON)	22 Oct 2014 09:55
To:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	111 of 177

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Quote: Mind you, the whole 'ban guns because they could fall into the wrong hands' argument could apply similarly to cars and matches. Very true, as well as many other things in this world. It seems many things today are not handled or stored responsibly. I remember a guy I knew commenting on how he thought the human race was actually devolving back to apes. Seeing some of the stupid crap that takes place in the world these days, I sometimes wonder if he might not be right. ;-) Cybatrons Free Network: Where Free isn't just a word! A free hosting network run by people for people! Free hosting for Beehive or PHPBB forums with Ajax Chat. Need a nice place to build your online community? Well then check out the CFN member sites! CFN Beehive Styles Gallery

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Oct 2014 13:09
To:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	112 of 177

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Cars and matches aren't weapons - they have uses beside causing harm. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	22 Oct 2014 14:29
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	113 of 177

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True enough, although guns can be used for food and making holes in the wall more easily than getting the drill out. But the only-dangerous-if-it-falls-into-the-wrong-hands argument is pretty much the same. bastard by name bastard by nature

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Oct 2014 14:40
To:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	114 of 177

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Might start carrying a halberd. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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