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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  Mizzy     
41226.67 In reply to 41226.65 
Well, you have to understand I am Republic in leanings (if that was a secret  :-P ) so I am probably much more biased against obamacare than for it.

I do not really have any personal knowledge of how obamacare treats mental illness, but traditionally it hasn't been done well here for a very long time. there's a lot of stigma associated with MI so some people avoid an MI diagnosis to avoid the stigma. It is really only recently that the trend has been better understanding of mental illness; maladies like depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and other related issues.

It might interest you to know that I have suffered from a level of depression from time to time. Many people do not know that I do, but I know it. My wife probably doesn't know it. Why? Because I am able to disguise it fairly well. People who do not see me on a regular basis might not be able to see the difference between me at 100% and me at 50%, because my 50% is sometimes better than others 100%. I am not saying this out of arrogance or anything, it is just that I tend to be an optimistic pragmatist. Yeah, I know - hooey. What I mean by that is I am opyimistic that things will work out fine but pragmatic enough to try to be prepared in case they don't.

Some people turn to porn when depressed, others masturbate excessively or turn to other sexual outlets, some turn to drink, drugs, or crime; others withdraw from society. Back in the day, they called it "coping". Some people do it (coping) by working, other with the aforementioned negative means, others have a recreational outlet.

The fact that our economy is not good does not help in any of these matters and obamacare has not helped at all in that regard. We were told that 40 million people needed insurance, and fewer than 7 million signed up, of which some of them haven't paid a premium yet. Companies are sitting on massive cash reserves because they do not know how the new obamacare scenario will affect them. So there are a couple million people out of work, a couple million more underemployed and hundreds of thousands who have sort of given up actively looking for a job because they fee like they have exhausted their opportunities.

Yet companies will tell you they can't find people. They can't find people because they have outsourced their generally useless anyway Human Resource departments, but at least when they existed they were in-house if one could manage to get to talk to someone. I actuallly just spent over an hour talking to a recruiter for a postion that is probably at least a 40 minute commute away. If one is lucky enough to find and apply for a job (a lot of job descriptions look like they are looking for Purple Cows), the software they use likely throws out a good 50% of likely qualified, excellent candidates to a job whose skills probably transfer well to a different line of work, yet their "keywords" were wrong. Or they lacked experience in that particular field - although in a better economy would possibly be considered due to highly transferrable skills.

OK, so I have wandered off topic a bit right? Not really because all of this ends up in frustration and exacerbates the already fragile condition known as mental illness. Some of these folks commit suicide (it has been on the rise), some turn to those things I mentioned earlier. The Left, who ramrodded obamacare through claim that it isn't a job killer; perhaps "kill" is overdoing it but it is certainly putting a limp in the recovery, as have the massive bailouts to the auto industry and Wall Street/Banks. Had I been able to get a business loan back in 2011-2012, I probably wouldn't have the time to post here. I'd be putting away cases of beer, setting up Oktoberfest gatherings and running the distributorship.

People who work don't have time generally to do the wrong things. Idle hands are the devil's work. Some of it find better outlets than others and some of us keep plodding along regardless, even though were are depressed. Somehow we still know that it is wrong to take what does not belong to you, try to hurt others or otherwise become a problem to others. Some folks just get extremely desperate perhaps, but I don't know how much gun crime is done by folks in the situations I described. I think sometimes there are just bad folks out there that do stuff because they are just inherently evil.

** No wonder nobody answers my CVs if my spelling is as sh*tty as it has been here...
 
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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  milko     
41226.68 In reply to 41226.66 
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 Nobody showed me their boobs though, so now I feel like the USA owes me!

We do, and I will gladly show you my boobs although I doubt it would be the same for you. By the time you get here I hope to have lost the bit of relaxation that has caused this bit of manboobery (it isn't like I need a bra or a "mansier", mate  :-P ).

"Show" is probably overstating things a bit, since I was a bit far away and could not really see what may have been lovely assets those two had. Is that some sort of a custom to do that in Stratford, upon that gentle, arched bridge? In any event, should you find yourself on the East coast, I shall do as much as I can to ensure you will experience a vision of lovliness appropriate for a chap of your stature. And not by going to Double Visions, either. [G]
 

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what the fucking hell is that?

Good intentions gone all wrong. But even at that, the local townships, even with a fancy RV would be no match for guerilla warfare if it came down to it. At least I expect not. I don't think they are allowed to have Apache helicopters and they are a bitch to maintain anyway. If we had Apaches, you guys would be bitching that we had those too.  LMAO

No college campus needs an MRAP, APC or 10,000 rounds of ammo for AR-15s and neither does a police precinct. If there is a neighborhood that has gotten out of hand to the degree that all those munitions are required, then the police and local government has allowed it to get that way. Call the National Guard in and clean it out, using bulldozers if necessary.

 
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 From:  milko  
 To:  fixrman      
41226.69 In reply to 41226.68 
I think to be honest if most people had an Apache and managed to get it started up, the first thing they'd do is crash it. They look like quite a challenge to fly.


If Stratford has a custom involving boobflashing it's not one I've ever heard of. I can only surmise that once the UK heard you were coming, they were laid on as part of the special treatment we all planned for you.
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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  milko     
41226.70 In reply to 41226.69 
That warms my heart to no end! I know it was meant as a surprise, but I wish I'd been closer to fully appreciate the view.

Yes, I do know you are joking, but that is exactly the kind of comment I have grown accustomed to in talking with those of the Anglican persuasion, or Angling Saxons as I prefer. It is almost pleasant to be insulted by a Brit.  LOL

I know a few helo pilots and they say they are easier than fixed wings to fly - well, after about 300 hours of practice or so.  ;-)
 
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 From:  Manthorp  
 To:  fixrman      
41226.71 In reply to 41226.49 
I only pay in brick.

"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951
 
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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  Manthorp     
41226.72 In reply to 41226.71 
You are a suave bastard, aren't you?
 
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 From:  Manthorp  
 To:  fixrman      
41226.73 In reply to 41226.72 
I fucking am.

"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951
 
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
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Man... I'm glad I was busy cleaning all my guns when this shit got heated!

Everyone knows my view on the subject, and I promise to keep the list of requested firearms from teh a secret!

About the only thing I have to add is this...

Just because you have a gun and shoot someone doesn't mean they instantly fall dead.  Well they do if you shoot their brains out, but hey that's probably some kind of delicacy over there you blood pudding monsters!

I've said this multiple times, but dammit I'm saying it again! :)  Most law abiding gun owners here pray they never have to use it on another person!  But if someone found themselves in that position most criminals would get the point with a shot to the knee or leg or hand or ass or whatever.  Just avoid the vitals.  I'm starting to think you guys don't watch zombie movies or horror films!  Don't you see the punishment people can take?  Hell, I just rewatched Tropic Thunder last night and fucking Tugg Speedman had to have taken 200 rounds and he even played volleyball with a grenade and didn't die!  But he did lose his hands.  That was pretty sad I guess... 
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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41226.75 In reply to 41226.74 
I don't miss. Ask the squirrel.  ;-)
 
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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41226.76 In reply to 41226.74 
But if someone found themselves in that position most criminals would get the point with a shot to the knee or leg or hand or ass or whatever. Just avoid the vitals.

Which goes against all the rules of shooting people. Aim for centre mass, don't shoot what you don't want to kill etc. Sorry, but that bit is absolute bollocks - no way is someone full of adrenaline and who has probably never fired a shot in anger going to be able to accurately target a body part like that, and if you shoot you know that.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
41226.77 In reply to 41226.76 
For the most part I agree, but even shooting for center mass isn't an instant death sentence.  Unless the intruder or criminal is out of their mind on something even the sight of a gun is sometimes enough to change their minds.  Imagine yourself sneaking into a dark house and hearing the sound of someone cocking their weapon.  I'd know right away that if I continued bad shit was going to happen and think really hard about what was about to happen.
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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41226.78 In reply to 41226.77 
The key point is you never shoot anything you aren't happy killing, though. Yes, shooting them in the chest may not kill them but I'd not take the odds, personally.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not even that anti-gun and I've definitely own them if they were legal, but I don't really like the idea of all my neighbors owning them so I prefer the legality being that nobody can.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
41226.79 In reply to 41226.78 
I don't think there was ever, or will ever be a time when someone in a self defense position would be happy hurting someone.  To me it wouldn't matter what the weapon was, I don't like the idea of hurting anyone but I'd do it with whatever weapon I could get if it meant protecting my family.

That's part of the idea behind concealed carry.   You have to assume everyone is carrying a gun and it should make you think before you decide to carry out a crime on that person.
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41226.80 In reply to 41226.79 
'Course it doesn't take away the latent fear that someone potentially concealing a gun also has the potential to go completely postal.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  graphitone     
41226.81 In reply to 41226.80 
Don't make me use the "Guns don't kill people" speech on you mister!

If I were going to kill someone I think it would be much more fun to chase them around with my car!
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41226.82 In reply to 41226.81 
I knew that was setting me up for all sorts o' crap. :J

I think that Chris Rock sketch sums it all up for me - the guns don't kill people, bullets do thing.

This has probably been linked and viewed to death already, but here it is:



 
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  graphitone     
41226.83 In reply to 41226.82 
Man CR used to be great.

I wonder how many guns he owns?
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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  graphitone     
41226.84 In reply to 41226.82 
Well, I am not really a Chris Rock fan, but there's a lot of truth in his routine. It is usually white whackos shooting up schools. Thank God I stay brown all year long.  :-P
 
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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41226.85 In reply to 41226.81 
OK, WW.

 
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 From:  fixrman   
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)     
41226.86 In reply to 41226.78 
Do you really believe that? I am not so sure.

I killed a squirrel the other day, intentionally. Not because I wanted to (even though I hate their destructiveness), I sort of had to. Ever had a squirrel in your house/flat? I have. It can get dicey and dangerous. They have claws and teeth. They chew on rain gutters, tree limbs and are ruining my chimney. They've taken up a nest in the Douglas fir in my front yard. I wasn't happy I killed it, rather relieved the pest was gone.

If they didn't make so much noise bounding across the roof (and ruining it) it would be one thing. But they are contantly digging in my grass to find nuts they haven't buried or are too stupid to remember where they are. They dig in our flower pots/beds for nuts that aren't there. If I get three more, the family is gone and I save a possible 18 more baby squirrels.

Squirrels have no real enemies here. A hawk will get them occasionally, but not often enough to keep populations down. I do, however, not care to fire pellets indiscriminately, so I think I will get a lethal trap and avoid problems in the future. You can kill nuisance squirrels, but shooting them is not in any way encouraged, so I will have to give it up. Trapping will do the same thing in the end and the Broad Wing may appreciate no steel in his lunch, should he find it soon enough after termination.

Perhaps I can train one...
 
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