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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   4 Jul 2014 01:26 
 To:  Manthorp      22 of 40 
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I want the entire world to be a TV and I a beer and popcorn scarfing infant in a La-Z-Boy that spins around whenever something is going to blow up or Lindsay Lohan is going to bare her titties.

With some crystal meth to keep me awake through the boring bits.

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 From:  Manthorp   4 Jul 2014 08:18 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      23 of 40 
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We are the world, Smiffy.  We are the people.  I am actually Lindsay Lohan's best breast.
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   4 Jul 2014 10:51 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS       24 of 40 
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You may be right, but I suspect that it's the Betamax/VHS debate all over again.

I have no real views on Lyndsay Lohan or her titties though.

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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)   4 Jul 2014 11:45 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      25 of 40 
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Wanaaarghghghghhhg  :-&  X-S

I hate it, HATE IT, when the Beeb (or some other news source which should be knowledgeable), spout things out of their ass.
 
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But they tend to use more electricity and are considerably bulkier than the now more popular liquid-crystal display (LCD) and light-emitting diode (LED) TVs.
Yes they can - say, 500W versus 170W or something. Do you really care, with your electric ovens, halogen lights and other stuff? And if you buy something that's over 40" diagonally when you look at it, are you really going to feckin' care whether it's 5 or 3 cm thick after the initial "ooh look how thin it is" few minutes?
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"Plasma TVs can't be made a thin as LEDs, for example. People like stylish tellies."
I've seen some abysmal-looking thin LEDs, and some rather handsome plasma displays; oh wait, I own one of the latter. Look at it, it's sexier than me in cycling clothes, it's sexier than Jennifer Lawrence from most angles too*. Oh wait, you mentioned thin? So you make something thin so that it looks good on the wall, and then you cleverly ADD A FUCKING CURVE TO IT SO THAT IT NO LONGER SITS ON THE WALL PROPERLY?!?! WTF???
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"Home-cinema connoisseurs will always have a soft spot for plasmas, but they have simply been technologically superseded," he said.

What Ant said, just with added anger. The only non-plasma display that could hope to make this statement true (IMNSHO) is not even out yet - the Panasonic AX902, out this autumn hopefully. The OLEDs certainly have the potential to do this too, but they're still expensive and have a few niggling issues; oh, and they're curved.  (rave)

*don't try to stick things into the TV

But you know what, there is, potentially, one good thing out of this: the "home-cinema connoisseurs" will let the wankxperts spout marketing diarrhoea out of their various orifices, and in the meantime those who actually have a clue will just enjoy their "technologically superseded" yet somehow mysteriously better gadgets.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS    4 Jul 2014 12:00 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      26 of 40 
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Currently tempted with either the Panasonic TX-P55ST60B (£995) or TX-P50ST60B (£765) or TX-P50ST30B (£600).

I can get the P55ST60B  right now if I want but others are whether they turn up on the Panasonic Outlet store.

£995 is probably really pushing things, though all furniture and other stuff is bought now.
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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)   4 Jul 2014 12:09 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS       27 of 40 
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The ST60B is going to be better than the ST30B, funnily enough. It's a great TV for the money - what kind of warranty does it come with? Alternatively, Richer Sounds' warranty is decent enough too I think.
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   4 Jul 2014 12:16 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      28 of 40 
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To be fair, although some of that crap was from the BBC, some of it was (or at least appeared to be) a direct quote from some twit at TrustedReviews.

And I really only posted the link as confirmation that Samsung are exiting the market. I don't warrant or endorse the content.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS    4 Jul 2014 12:24 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      29 of 40 
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Richer Sounds don't seem to have any unfortunately. 12 months on the outlet refurbs.

Think I'll wait for the P50ST60B to turn up on the Outlet or just get the 55" from PRC direct if nothing appears in the next few weeks.
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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)   4 Jul 2014 14:41 
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quote: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)
To be fair, although some of that crap was from the BBC, some of it was (or at least appeared to be) a direct quote from some twit at TrustedReviews.

And I really only posted the link as confirmation that Samsung are exiting the market. I don't warrant or endorse the content.
I was just ranting, needed one.  :-Y But yes, sad that Samsung are exiting the market too; death of plasma I guess, not that people didn't see it coming.
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Richer Sounds don't seem to have any unfortunately. 12 months on the outlet refurbs.

Think I'll wait for the P50ST60B to turn up on the Outlet or just get the 55" from PRC direct if nothing appears in the next few weeks.

For some reason I thought you could buy the RS warranty for a TV purchased from somewhere else, now I'm not so sure.
You reckon 50" will be enough?  B-)

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS    4 Jul 2014 14:49 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      31 of 40 
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Yes and no.

I've been fine with a 42" but know I want a bit more, 50" seems ideal, but 55" looks easier to get hold of.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS    12 Jul 2014 11:29 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      32 of 40 
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P50ST60B bought!
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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)   14 Jul 2014 16:52 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS       33 of 40 
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Whoop! :D Try some custom settings, there are a few flying around... It's a damn good TV, just be a bit gentle with it for the first 200 hours (no retina-scorching settings, avoid static image bits for more than an hour or so, etc) and it should keep you happy for a long time.
This is one I found:
 
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Picture
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 79
Brightness: +1
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Warm2
Vivid Color: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
MPEG NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off


Pro Settings
Panel Brightness: Mid
AGC: 0
Black Extension: 0
Color Gamut: Normal

W/B Detail Adjustment
W/B High R: 5
W/B High G: 0
W/B High B:5
W/B Low R: 3
W/B Low G: 0
W/B Low B: 1

(W/B) More Detail Adjustment
10 W/B R: -20
10 W/B G: 0
10 W/B B: 13

20 W/B R: 5
20 W/B G: 0
20 W/B B: 14

30 W/B R: 7
30 W/B G: 0
30 W/B B: 4

40 W/B R: 6
40 W/B G: 0
40 W/B B: 2

50 W/B R: 3
50 W/B G: 0
50 W/B B: -4

60 W/B R: -3
60 W/B G: 0
60 W/B B: -8

70 W/B R: -2
70 W/B G: 0
70 W/B B: -7

80 W/B R: 6
80 W/B G: 0
80 W/B B: -1

90 W/B R: 1
90 W/B G: -1
90 W/B B: 2

100 W/B R: -11
100 W/B G: 0
100 W/B B: 4

Color Detail Adjustment
R-Hue: 2
R-Sat: -39
R-Lum: -9

G-Hue: 12
G-Sat: -50
G-Lum: 0

B-Hue: -22
B-Sat: 8
B-Lum: -8


Gamma Detail Adjustment
Gamma: 2.6 (2.4 on 60 and 65" models)

(Gamma) More Detail Adjustment
10 Gain: -33
20 Gain: -15
30 Gain: -6
40 Gain: -3
50 Gain: -2
60 Gain: 3
70 Gain: 3
80 Gain: -1
90 Gain: 0
100 Gain: 0

Advance Picture
3:2 PullDown: Auto

HDMI Content Type
***Leave settings in this menu at their default***

HDMI/DVI RGB Range
***Leave settings in this menu at their default***

Black Level: Light
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS    14 Jul 2014 16:58 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      34 of 40 
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Ohh cheers for that, should be arriving Wednesday.
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 From:  fixrman   15 Jul 2014 21:28 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      35 of 40 
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  Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   16 Jul 2014 18:35 
 To:  fixrman      36 of 40 
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Breaking Bad?

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 From:  fixrman   16 Jul 2014 21:49 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      37 of 40 
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Yes, the good stuff.  :-P Was it big across the pond?
 
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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)   17 Jul 2014 11:01 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS       38 of 40 
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SO????  8-O

I had our ZT calibrated a couple of days ago - not a HUGE difference, but it does bring out more nuances/details in the mid-range, and the darkest and lightest parts of an image have more detail too.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS    17 Jul 2014 11:36 
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)      39 of 40 
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It's very nice. 50" seems the right size.

Tried the settings you posted but it's a bit too dark, need to play about.

Liking being able to send YouTube videos to it from my phone. Only got 1 pair of 3D glasses, eyes felt too strained even if it did look quite good with a few demos I found on YouTube, probably won't use it much though.

Surprisingly thin too.
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)   29 Oct 2014 20:32 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      40 of 40 
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And LG now too. Think it just leaves some Chinese manufacturer.
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