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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)     
40898.392 In reply to 40898.390 
Indeed, for a man who stores his dustpan upright on a shelf, he should know better... he'll have a boiler suit set aside for DIY matters, a utility belt/kilt for demanding jobs and his screws all sorted into individual compartments in a wall thinger.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  koswix     
40898.393 In reply to 40898.391 
And just run it for x seconds?
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  graphitone     
40898.394 In reply to 40898.389 
It is a nice idea, but I think they're still too expensive, pretty tight budget.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  graphitone     
40898.395 In reply to 40898.392 
Mine are piled in cardboard cartons -- when I remember to put them back.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.396 In reply to 40898.393 
Or I could use a hall effect sensor or two to detect whether it is open or shut.
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)     
40898.397 In reply to 40898.395 
Mine are in an old Fairy tub. :J
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.398 In reply to 40898.393 
They use a mechanical linkage which reverses direction (motor runs continuously in one direction), so just install it so that turn in direction coincides with the max open position of the hatch, then add a limit switch to stop the motor when it reaches there.

They use a worm gear in the gearbox so produce substantial torque, but I've no idea if it's enough to lift a MDF door from horizontal. If there was torque figure available somewhere it's fairly trivial to work it out, though. Or just try it and see, if I doesn't work you have a spare motor for making a robot.

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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.399 In reply to 40898.396 
Is it finished?

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)     
40898.400 In reply to 40898.399 
Which bit?

It's half boarded and the hatch frame is in. Should get it pretty much finished tomorrow. Then I'll design some ridiculous way to open the hatch door.
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.401 In reply to 40898.400 
What about having a piece of hanging 'art' on the wall beside where the hatch is?

Use it as a counterweight, if you want to open the hatch then just give it a gentle tug downwards and marvel at your secret entrance skills :D

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  koswix     
40898.402 In reply to 40898.401 
My dad has suggested a counter-weight method too, with the weight in the attic.

It would still require the door to be pushed (at least initially), but it would make it much easier.

We've also realised that with a top opening door it may need some space for the loft ladders, unless the door actually goes within the frame rather than on top. Anyway, I've got enough MDF left over to sort that.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.403 In reply to 40898.402 
Spring(s)?

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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.404 In reply to 40898.402 
Have you got any pictures of what you've done so far?

Whenever anyone's telling me about their DIY projects my mind automatically imagines an Ikea-like paradise where everything fits neatly, walls are perfectly straight, you've got all the right screws to hand and there's never a dead battery, all in a room lit by white light coming through diaphanous curtains. I don't know why, 'cos my own DIY projects are usually messy affairs covered in filler, caulk, paint, blood and much swearing.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  graphitone     
40898.405 In reply to 40898.404 
My DIY project sounds very similar to yours. I've taken a few photos of the hatch progress, I'll put them up later. I'll take a photo of the finished flooring once it's done. I was going to put a camera up there and timelapse it, but it's so so filthy.

My dust mask from yesterday

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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.406 In reply to 40898.405 
Filth. :C

But I would like to see how it's going - always interested in DIY stuffs.
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 From:  Matt  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.407 In reply to 40898.405 
Glad to see you have the keys to the windows, in their rightful place, on the window sill.

doohicky

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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Matt     
40898.408 In reply to 40898.407 
And the getaway car parked nearby.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  Matt     
40898.409 In reply to 40898.407 
The other place is in the lock, but that's risky business when there's a chance the key will fall out when you open it!
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  graphitone     
40898.410 In reply to 40898.406 
Not totally finished but so far... (click for bigger)

Original hatch



Day 1 - widen hatch and put supporting beams across existing beams. Filthy work. Didn't realise that the developer I bought it off had put a suspended ceiling in the landing area, that made things a bit more complicated.

 

Day 2 - Give the hatch a box/carcass



Day 3 - Architrave

 

It will soon be painted white.

Day 2 - Started the boarding

 

Day 3 - Most of the rest of boarding done

 
 

You may notice I've not laid the tongue & groove as it should be. I've gone tongue-tongue, groove-groove. My original reason was because I wanted it to be easy to lift any boards in future, and as I've been laying the boards it became an even better idea because the beams I'm screwing into aren't level/even in the slightest so getting them to align nicely would have been impossible. The house is about 150 years old so that's not a surprise.

The best way would have been to build a frame across the area to lay the boards on to ensure it was totally flat. That wasn't going to happen.

Day 4 will be laying any extra boards and bits of boards that need doing.

I'll need to make a change to the door when the ladders arrive. Once that's done I'll crack open the paint.
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40898.411 In reply to 40898.410 
:D looks like it's going well, but a pretty big job. Are you taking time off work to do this? How did you tidy up the top of the uprights (the bits that cover the gap in the suspended ceiling) from the hatch where it meets the boards above? It looks nice n' neat.

Are you boarding over the insulation stuff or removing that as you go?  That's reminded me, I had a look in our loft space the other week. Like yours it's got a suspended ceiling from when the attic was converted from a room and a corridor into one big room. They made some attempt at insulation - there's a bag of polystyrene pellets up there covering about a square meter's worth of floor space. It's just above my dart board, so at least that'll be nice and warm come the winter. :/

I like the light well. :)

 
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