Windows 8.1 is out...

From:	PNCOOL	21 Oct 2013 15:57
To:	Monsoir (PILOTDAN)	30 of 43

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I've still not got my head around a potential Windows 8 roll-out here in this School. I can't get the tile start menu doing exactly what I want for user profiles. *PNCOOL*

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	21 Oct 2013 17:23
To:	af (CAER)	31 of 43

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Gimp's not that bad any more. Certainly no worse than Photoshop, which was always pretty dreadful. Illustrator has a decent interface though, whereas Inkscape is just... yeah, bad. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	21 Oct 2013 17:24
To:	ANT_THOMAS	32 of 43

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w3rd. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)	21 Oct 2013 17:55
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	33 of 43

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GImp, though much improved, is certainly still much worse than Photoshop. My biggest complaint about PS is that all the stupid do-dads they've bolted on since about version 6 should be offered as optional plug-ins. And the drm and now cloud bullshit. But the interface is actually about as good as it gets for such a complex and powerful set of tools. There's loads of people (mainly professional photographers) who only need to perform a few rote enhancements to their boring pictures of weddings, corporate smurfs and hamburgers. So for them the GUI and learning curve could be significant drawbacks. But hey, that's what instagram is for. full disclosure: I love using gimp. ---- "Allow me to channel Linus Torvalds a minute: 'What do you mean there wasn't a backup disk? Fucking kill yourself with a pipe wrench. I hate you, your mother was a whore and your dad was the neighbors dog. People like you make me sick.' "

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From:	af (CAER)	21 Oct 2013 18:02
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	34 of 43

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I guess I put up with Inkscape (and its bad performance on the Mac) because it's the only vector drawing thing I've found that has a decent amount of features. I forget what exactly but I looked at several and they were all missing some obvious feature that I use a lot (and by "a lot" I mean "a lot on the rare occasions I actually need to use a vector drawing program"). caer.me

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From:	af (CAER)	21 Oct 2013 18:04
To:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	35 of 43

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And as to Gimp, well, no Layer Styles = no good tbh. caer.me

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From:	milko	21 Oct 2013 22:03
To:	CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)	36 of 43

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Pro photographers would probably do better using Lightroom if they're only doing rote enhancements. Way quicker.

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From:	fixrman	21 Oct 2013 22:39
To:	Dave!!	37 of 43

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Windows Ain't. It sucks. :-(

Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?

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From:	Drew (X3N0PH0N)	22 Oct 2013 07:02
To:	af (CAER)	38 of 43

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One thing I really like about Inkscape is that it's quite powerful for doing conversions and stuff on the command line. , , , , , , , , , , `' (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) (o,o) \ \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) \|)__) ''`>-,--”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---”-”---- ,'.*''`

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From:	fixrman	12 Apr 2014 14:41
To:	ALL	39 of 43

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Received the invitation to "upgrade" to Windows 8.1 yesterday. Painfully slow process, what with all the verifying, tidying, evaluating, cleaning, applying, finalizing, tidying a few more things... ugh. Probably could have accomplished the same things in less time in other ways as I already use Classic Shell.

Just don't like Ain't. I have no need for the Metro/Live tiles silliness (to me) on a laptop/desktop. Of course I probably would still be OK with Windows 2000. :-P

Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?

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From:	CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)	4 Nov 2014 10:51
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Had my first look at it yesterday when I had to install some fonts on my boss's new dell desktop. Weird shit. In font previews they looked ok. Word 2013 displayed the fonts in the menu correctly, and it printed the fonts correctly, but in actual document display reverted to generic sans with weird kernings. These are fonts that work with no issues on Win7/Word 2013. After several tries I worked out that 8.1 doesn't support postscript fonts, only TT. Way to go, Microsoft! ---- "Ninety percent of Americans use the Internet. The other ten percent use the banjo."

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	4 Nov 2014 16:49
To:	CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)	41 of 43

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You'll probably find that it supports OT too. I have a funny feeling that, with the advent and acceptance of OT, PS may be going the way of the dodo. bastard by name bastard by nature

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From:	CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)	4 Nov 2014 18:47
To:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	42 of 43

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OT is just a wrapper format. Office 2013 doesn't support OTF ps (at least not my fonts), only OTF tt. Based on my limited research, it seems font support depends on the type of printer you have hooked up, in this case a PCL6. As I said, it printed the ps fonts flawlessly, but Word couldn't display them properly. But I goofed when I said Win7/Word2013, it was Win7/Word 2010 they do work in. So it may actually be an Office 2013 font rendering bug, as some research I did appears to indicate. ---- "Ninety percent of Americans use the Internet. The other ten percent use the banjo."

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From:	99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)	4 Nov 2014 19:55
To:	CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)	43 of 43

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Wrappers do my fucking head in. bastard by name bastard by nature

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