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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  milko     
40672.7 In reply to 40672.4 
Is DTP even a thing anymore?
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 From:  milko  
 To:  graphitone     
40672.8 In reply to 40672.7 
I don't know really, the flyer was so retro it brought it to mind for the first time in years. Serif Pageplus, free on PC Format magazine!

I suppose Adobe InDesign is DTP sort of? What do they call that now?
milko
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  milko     
40672.9 In reply to 40672.8 
I guess what my brother's company does is what was essentially DTP.

Page setting with artwork? Graphic design?
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 From:  milko  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40672.10 In reply to 40672.9 
http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/indesign.html page title is DTP. there we go!
milko
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  graphitone     
40672.11 In reply to 40672.6 
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordered_dithering

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 From:  Manthorp  
 To:  milko     
40672.12 In reply to 40672.8 
I remember getting that!  What a coup it was.  Then, later, they cover-mounted Truespace 4.2 (still a pretty good 3d application, actually).

"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951

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 From:  cynicoid  
 To:  milko     
40672.13 In reply to 40672.8 
It wasn't just Serif Pageplus, it was DrawPlus as well. Still got the coverdisc !

I occasionaly use both for basic stuff.
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 From:  milko  
 To:  cynicoid     
40672.14 In reply to 40672.13 
I'm surprised they still even work on modern Windows!
milko
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 From:  cynicoid  
 To:  milko     
40672.15 In reply to 40672.14 
They don't.
I have a spare HDD running XP with loads of old incompatible but good/usefull software installed on it. I plug this in when needs arise.

Mainly because I have a load of files and records going back over the years that won't work on more modern OS's.
eg.
Lotus 123
Serif
Quicken
Sound Studio Gold

Some games and other apps.
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 From:  milko  
 To:  cynicoid     
40672.16 In reply to 40672.15 
I just forget about old things sooner or later.
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  milko     
40672.17 In reply to 40672.16 
Surely if you forgot about them sooner they wouldn't be old things.

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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  cynicoid     
40672.18 In reply to 40672.15 
Lotus 123? That brings back memories, I remember getting that free with my first PC, which I ashamedly bought from Time Computers. (fail) It never really worked right, but it got me into the whole fixing/tinkering aspect of PCs.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  cynicoid     
40672.19 In reply to 40672.15 
I still use photoshop 6 and after effects 4.

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"But as the baby's mouth develops into adulthood, it will ultimately be used for badmouthing co-workers, interrupting people when they speak, and never bothering to say thank you."
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 From:  milko  
 To:  koswix     
40672.20 In reply to 40672.17 
Well, if I knew exactly when I forgot them, they'd not be forgotten!
milko
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  milko     
40672.21 In reply to 40672.20 
Is there a definite tipping point for forgetting things, like at 12:10 I can recall what I had for breakfast, but as soon as 12:11 comes around I've forgotten it? Or is there a process of getting progressively hazy, being able to recall less and less details until the memory is mired in a mental fug so much so that any attempt to penetrate the noisome fumes leaves the brain choking away and unable to to pick out any details?

I'm sure it's the latter, from personal experience, but it's probably different for other people. :C

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 From:  milko  
 To:  graphitone     
40672.22 In reply to 40672.21 
I know I had toast today for breakfast. Often I have nothing but an espresso (never got an appetite that early) so I wonder how long this will be noteworthy enough for me to remember. We can do a test!

I already can't remember if it had marmalade or not, which supports your hypothesis. I think it probably did, but certainty is lost to me.
milko
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  graphitone     
40672.23 In reply to 40672.21 
My memory is pretty abysmal.

I do know what I had for breakfast. Nothing, like every day. I've had 2 cups of tea this morning and now it's dinnertime.
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      milko     
40672.24 In reply to 40672.22 
Unfortunately you've written down what you've had for breakfast, which not only serves as an aide memoir, but may cement in your mind that fact that you've eaten toast. This is going to to require more testing.

Ant - I thought you were a funky hippy fitness kinda guy. Don't you know not eating breakfast is bad for you?

Breakfast is something I can't do without, before getting married n'that I used to wake up early and have to eat straight away. I can wait a bit longer now, but still have to have had something by 9am to be able to function properly.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   
 To:  graphitone     
40672.25 In reply to 40672.24 
Never been obsessed with fitness. Looking at my waist I should probably be more interested these days.

Everyone seems to say breakfast is essential but I never listen. Can't remember the last time I regularly ate breakfast.
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      
40672.26 In reply to 40672.25 
It's just something i had in my head from you doing TKD... I shouldn't leap to conclusions. :-$

My eating routine used to be habitual, it was breakfast time, so I had breakfast. Now it's kinda dictated by how my stomach's working. I can't eat much at night, so make up for it with a big breakfast and lunch.

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