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 From:  af (CAER)   27 Aug 2013 15:03 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       14 of 58 
40661.14 In reply to 40661.13 
The point is, it's more likely the broken code you're using/writing being the issue, than it is jQuery's compatibility with IE10 being the issue.

Yes, old IEs can be a pain to work with, but the problem here could be several things specific to IE10, possibly it being more strict about certain things than Firefox or Chrome, or like Matt said, transparent elements over the target, or some slight difference in how IE interprets some CSS.

The point is you don't know, which is why everyone is telling you to open IE's console/dev tools and find out what the actual cause of the problem is, and fix that, rather than resorting to horrible inline-JS hackery.
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 From:  af (CAER)   27 Aug 2013 15:04 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       15 of 58 
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And if you have found an issue with jQuery and its different handling of browser features, you should let the jQuery devs know about it.
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 From:  af (CAER)   27 Aug 2013 15:19 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       16 of 58 
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Here's a minimal test case:
http://caer.me/clickhandler.html
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    27 Aug 2013 15:21 
 To:  af (CAER)      17 of 58 
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I suspect an IE-specific conflict between the ca. 2008 css list js and jquery that I injected my little submenu into.

I got it working. Am I going to now obsessive-compulsively troubleshoot an issue between a really old (and rather complex) javascript, jquery and IE10?

In a word, no.

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 From:  af (CAER)   27 Aug 2013 16:18 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       18 of 58 
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Well sure, if it's an isolated case then no point losing sleep over it. Like you said earlier, the user isn't going to be looking at the source anyway, so if it works, no big deal.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    27 Aug 2013 17:26 
 To:  af (CAER)      19 of 58 
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You are not PB.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   27 Aug 2013 18:03 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       20 of 58 
40661.20 In reply to 40661.17 
It's quite simple:

    •  If all you want to do is whine about how useless you are at debugging trivial JS issues, use Ranter's Corner.

    •  If you want to receive advice on how you can stop being useless, post in Coding. It's not like these folder things are new technology or anything...
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    27 Aug 2013 18:15 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      21 of 58 
40661.21 In reply to 40661.20 
 (heart)

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 From:  af (CAER)   27 Aug 2013 18:27 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       22 of 58 
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Um, and?
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    27 Aug 2013 19:47 
 To:  af (CAER)      23 of 58 
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It's a blessing.

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 From:  af (CAER)   27 Aug 2013 20:18 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       24 of 58 
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No doubt, but why bring it to my attention?
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    27 Aug 2013 20:50 
 To:  af (CAER)      25 of 58 
40661.25 In reply to 40661.24 
Peter could never bring himself to post what you said, unless he dropped acid a thousand times.

I don't expect he will, though.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   27 Aug 2013 22:17 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       26 of 58 
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Except I have at no point told you to lose sleep, and specifically identified it as a trivial issue.

Whether or not a random person decides to view source is irrelevant. More relevant, however, is whether a developer will come along in six months to make a change and wonder who did the ugly hack and why - they will of course be able to check the source control commit history for that line and see the explanation for making that particular change, right?
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    27 Aug 2013 22:34 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      27 of 58 
40661.27 In reply to 40661.26 
The web site is a whole ugly dog's breakfast. I chose the least intrusive route. Which paid off when I discovered my additions are compatible with ie7+ with a couple of minor CSS hacks (apologies; I know how repugnant you find this, you loon). The website is overripe for a complete rebuild, but ... not my call (or yours).

"the source control commit history"

You're joking, right? Please tell me you're joking.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   27 Aug 2013 22:50 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       28 of 58 
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Seriously? The web site is a whole ugly dog's breakfast, so you're modifying it without using source control, because that makes so much sense.

Jeepers! Next you'll be saying you were working directly on the live server for those three hours.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    27 Aug 2013 23:44 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      29 of 58 
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The live site hasn't been touched.

For you, I recommend the acid therapy. Begin today.

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   27 Aug 2013 23:49 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       30 of 58 
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Unlike yourself?
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    27 Aug 2013 23:57 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      31 of 58 
40661.31 In reply to 40661.30 
Been there, done it. :O)

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   28 Aug 2013 08:01 
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:'D (fail)



Since I've recently started a job which could be classed as slightly corporate I've noticed a reliance on IE. I was sent a link to sign up to something by one of the MDs and when opened in Firefox it said I should probably use IE. When I opened it in IE I got that up there.

Our SAP CRM system only seems to function properly in IE too. It's usually a slow pile of shit though.
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 From:  af (CAER)   28 Aug 2013 08:22 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       33 of 58 
40661.33 In reply to 40661.27 
No source control? At all? Good grief.

You could at least stick the whole thing in a local Git repo, if only to keep track of what you've done yourself.
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