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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.4 In reply to 40068.1 
Samsung series 7 chronos. £650ish on amazon, can either have it with decent graphics* or decent CPU**, not both.

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**Ivy Bridge ones seem to only have Intel HD graphics.



                                                
                                                
                                                
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.5 In reply to 40068.1 
I'm saddened to hear that Apple make laptops with screens that are shite for films and gaming. No, really I am.

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)     
40068.6 In reply to 40068.5 
16:10 is better for gaming.

In fact 16:10 is just better. It is a closer fit to my (and most other humans') field of vision. Films tend to be wider than either so you get letterboxing either way.

But yeah, I don't see it as a big deal. 16:9 is only marginally inferior, you'll get used to it.
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 From:  Ixion  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.7 In reply to 40068.1 
13.3" rather than 15" but the HP Pro books aren't bad and are a 16:10 screen albeit at a slightly disappointing 1366x768 resolution the same as a 13 inch MacBook.
http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5211503

 
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 From:  Ixion  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.8 In reply to 40068.1 
http://www.hardware.com/store/hp/LG652EA or this one which is 15.5", slightly over your original budget though.
 
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)  
 To:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)     
40068.9 In reply to 40068.6 
I /am/ used to it. I don't really care. Especially since I watch a lot of films in non-current standard formats (e.g. 1930s-1950s)

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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)     
40068.10 In reply to 40068.9 
It bothers me a bit. 16:10 is just /nicer/ (better approximation of the golden ratio) and it's frustrating that these things are being dictated by the entertainment industry when most of us spend most of our time on our computers doing things other than consuming TV/films. Man, that was a badly written sentence.

But yeah, I managed with 4:3 for years and either is better than that so it's no big deal.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.11 In reply to 40068.3 
Because you seem to think the old ones are better?

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 From:  Dave!!   
 To:  Ixion     
40068.12 In reply to 40068.7 
Sorry, but 1366x768 is a 16:9 resolution :-(

As I say, I don't mind 16:9 being the common and cheaper aspect ratio. My big irritation is that 16:10 is literally not available at all - even on so-called premium laptops. Her old laptop has a decent 1400x900 screen res and it wasn't a premium model.

My guess is that 16:9 obviously became cheaper to make - what with the entertainment industry and everything, and as it became more popular, 16:10 screens became more expensive. As the margins are better with 16:9 screens, the manufacturers obviously thought that if they shifted EVERYTHING to 16:9, we'd have to buy them, and they'd make more profit as a result. The exception is Apple, as they can charge what they like and still sell things - plus the excellent screens are one of the MacBook's unique features these days.

Dan: Old laptop *screens* are better, but with an older CPU, slower memory, ageing battery and all the rest of it, the laptop is in need of replacement. I want a *new* laptop but with a good screen. Unfortunately, that's not possible unless I buy an Apple laptop. I don't really want to buy a laptop and know that it's deliberately got a sub-standard screen, just to help that manufacturer's profits.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.13 In reply to 40068.12 
Well, I'm not being sarcastic. I mean buy an old model new (i.e., not used) or maybe refurb, or in 'like new' condition, if you can find one. Sure the latest cpu and faster memory are nice, but maybe not all they're cracked up to be, or really needed by your wife for her computing purposes. And you can usually get a replacement battery.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.14 In reply to 40068.12 
Just buy a 16:9 laptop. She'll get used it. I moved from 16:10 to 16:9. It was a bit annoying but the benefits of a new much better laptop certainly outweighed the screen res change.
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 From:  Dave!!   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
40068.15 In reply to 40068.14 
The problem is that unless we spend an arm and a leg, she'll get a drop in resolution from her old laptop (1400x900 to 1366x768). And as she finds the screen to be an important part, she's not overly fussed on having an enforced downgrade.

And of course even if she can get used to it, there's always that annoyance of knowing that you've got a deliberately poorer screen, just to help the laptop manufacturer make more profit at your expense. Kind of leaves a nasty taste in your mouth.
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 From:  Drew (X3N0PH0N)  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.16 In reply to 40068.15 
How about a desktop? :Y

(or at least an external monitor for when using it at home)
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.17 In reply to 40068.15 
Just get a laptop with a 15" 16:9 1920x1080 screen.

Yes you've lost the extra vertical dimension but you've gained many more pixels otherwise.

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 From:  Dave!!   
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40068.18 
In the end she's gone for a 13.3" Samsung Series 9 Ultrabook. 1600x900 res (so although she'll lose vertical space, she's not losing resolution), 128GB SSD, and it only weighs 1.1kg. Looks very nice. In fact, IMO if it had a 16:10 screen, it'd have been perfect. Still, apart from that it looks like a nice bit of kit!
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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.19 In reply to 40068.18 
Good - I was fearing that you were slowly turning into PB :|
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 From:  Ixion  
 To:  Dave!!      
40068.20 In reply to 40068.18 
Same laptop I have, you'll want to do some partition fiddling with it as it comes with 90Gb useable out of the box they've put so much recovery shite on there!
 
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)     
40068.21 In reply to 40068.19 
Someone has to fill in for him.  I'm trying, but I need help!


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 From:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)  
 To:  Ixion     
40068.22 In reply to 40068.20 
I think it's extremely thoughtful of laptop manufacturers to make sure that you can easily restore all the CuntingFuckware™ they supplied, and I would gladly see at least 50% of the advertised capacity of the barely-large-enough SSD dedicated to such a restore volume. Saves you having to write down a list of all the CuntingFuckware™ so you can download and re-install it after a repave of your PC (and that's assuming the right version of CORELshop Pro Elements Lite 2011 OEM is even available for download anymore).

Happy now?

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 From:  Ixion  
 To:  THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)     
40068.23 In reply to 40068.22 
Helpfully the software wasn't all that crap, and they offer a software manager which you can download to put things like the hotkey functions back on anyway, so if you have an internet connection there's no need to have a 30gb restore image on a 128gb SSD. Whatever happened to the days they just supplied a DVD with the machine!
 
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